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ambi_doug · Post by **ambi_doug** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:01 pm

is there a comprehensive list of surround/multichannel (specifically 5.1) plugins anywhere?

in particular I am looking for multichannel compressors and limiters... i can't find any anywhere.

failing that, can anyone point me in the direction of how to build a functional compressor/limiter in synthedit (i've already tried [and failed] a couple of times, but can't say I really know what i'm doing)?

BTW, i have access to the steinberg surround edition set, but IMO they're pretty crap. i'm looking for alternatives.

any help would be much appreciated.

ta.

arturmeinild · Post by **arturmeinild** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:27 am

I'm very much looking for the same thing... So far, I've found that Starplugs has some decent surround plugins (compressor, exciter, phaser, panner etc) and both Kelly and now Voxengo has a surround bass management plugin. But there must be other alternatives...

isdjan · Post by **isdjan** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:55 pm

with some clever routing, you can use 3 stereo plugins instead of a dedicated surround-plug. this is a little more hassle, because you have to adjust three devices instead of a single one, but it's to be considered if everything else fails.

there has been an online article on these routing things...

http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=sos ... uche&meta=

unfortunately, soundonsound seems to be down atm, but try one of the articles of that google result list, i think it should be there.

isdjan · Post by **isdjan** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:56 pm

sos is back here - look at this link:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may04/a ... enotes.htm

arturmeinild · Post by **arturmeinild** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:15 pm

I was thinking about routing as well. It should be possible to route any number of surround channels to 3 stereo mastering channels: Front (L+R), C+LFE, Surround (L+R) and output those back to the surround outputs. And then run the same mastering configuration on all 3 stereo mastering channels, with the added option of fine tuning each pair independently...

ambi_doug · Post by **ambi_doug** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:14 pm

this is basically how i've reverted to doing it. after mixing to 6 chnnels, i then re-import the wave files back into nuendo, then master the L+R as a pair, the Ls+Rs as a pair, and the centre and LFE individually.
this also means that I can use my favourite stereo mastering processes on the mix. I can also adjust front/rear/center/LFE balance if required.
actually thinking about it, this makes a lot more sense than being tied to using one or other particular specific surround plugin.
linking isn't a probem - i have enough screen space to have two or three plugins open simultaneously and don't mind moving two faders instead of one.

dystonia_ek · Post by **dystonia_ek** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:54 pm

Don't think there are any compressors/limiters, but these are really good:

http://acousmodules.free.fr

neil wilkes · Post by **neil wilkes** » Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:49 pm

Trying to use 3 stereo compressors in a multichannel configuration is going to give some appalling phase problems.

Try the Steinberg Surround Edition:
8 channel EQ (The old Q-Metric)
8 channel compressor
8 channel reverb
8 channel limiter
LFE splitter
LFE combiner

There is also Voxengo's PristineSpace - up to 8 channels of convolution, all from one to 8 impulses.
Can be used in a surround environment or else for serial convolution.

Starplugs do some very usable tools too.

There is a new W5 Wizooverb - a surround reverb unit that blows everything else right out of the water.

That is about it.

Newbie Brad · Post by **Newbie Brad** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:38 am

dystonia_ek wrote:Don't think there are any compressors/limiters, but these are really good:

http://acousmodules.free.fr

These plugs are good and the features are deep. Also the developer is willing to correspond about questions.

DimaP · Post by **DimaP** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:26 pm

Gents, does anyone have a .pdf documentation to Steinberg Surround Edition 2?

neil wilkes · Post by **neil wilkes** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:18 pm

There isn't one.
There was a printed manual in the box though.

angel777 · Post by **angel777** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:23 pm

Does anyone experienced a problem registering starplugs plug-ins?

I'v got a PID code of 5 numbers but the GUI let me insert only 4 numbers..what can I do?
Please help me!
Thanks a lot!

twister · Post by **twister** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:37 pm

what can you do? just buy these ridiculously-overpriced-SynthEdit "creations" instead of using a crack

surround/multichannel plugins