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braj · Post by **braj** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:28 pm

Lunch Money wrote:Really? I don't see the 'edited 1 time' line beneath Braj's post...

Ron, you wrote "im" instead of "I'm".

No, it was a few posts up. I take full responsibility for my misspellings. Now if ron really wants us to start correcting spelling and grammar.....

valley · Post by **valley** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:30 pm

Lunch, you placed a full-stop -- or, if you must: 'period' -- after, rather than before, the final quote in that last sentence.

braj · Post by **braj** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:33 pm

valley wrote:Lunch, you placed a full-stop -- or, if you must: 'period' -- after, rather than before, the final quote in that last sentence.

I don't believe those hyphens should be doubled there, Valley. Is that the Queen's official way of using hyphens?

Anyone remember the proper use of prepositions? It's been a long time since I was in the third grade.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:39 pm

Those aren't hyphens, they are em dashes. However, they were used incorrectly. They should be attached directly the the preceding word, but separated from the next, thusly:

This sentence-- like many other sentences-- contains em dashes.

My full-stop, however, was placed at the correct location.

Greg

valley · Post by **valley** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:44 pm

braj wrote: I don't believe those hyphens should be doubled there, Valley.

Curiously though, my keyboard seems to lack a long-hypen key. Double hypens, whilst ugly, do serve the purpose of distinguishing between hypens and long dashes. Now whether using long dashes to break sentences is good grammar is a different subject entirely.

Is that the Queen's official way of using hyphens?

I do not believe the Queen is in the habit of laying down stylistic, or syntactic guides for proper written English. I believe, though I may be wrong, that this is what they invented the New York Times for.

Anyone remember the proper use of prepositions? It's been a long time since I was in the third grade.

Yup, and if you are objecting to prefixing prepositions with commas, it is permissable. I'll be the first to admit it is hardly best practise, but it isn't wrong per se.

That said, I don't hold a lot of truck with the "no split infinitives" law, because I've yet to be convinced that the English language truly has infinitives. You may feel that inherently disqualifies me from having an opinion, so this whole conversation may well be moot[1].

[1] Moot conversations being something of an Internet speciality, of course.

valley · Post by **valley** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:47 pm

Lunch Money wrote:was placed at the correct location.

Hmm, you say that, and I have a funny feeling I've been caught out by this before. I think the English and American/Canadian laws differ slightly on this, and a few other points.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:55 pm

bunch of freaking geeks, man. trackpad, back on topic. whose up to code what i wish?

RONC

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:59 pm

Canadian English is still the Queen's English. What was significant was the context. Were I quoting a phrase or spoken language (even a single word) I would have needed the period inside the quotation marks:

"This room is not," said Bob, "tidy."

(though it's awkward and would have worked better as '"This room," said Bob, "is not tidy."' Like the quotation within the quotation? Tricky tricky....)

I've also been wrong before, and perhaps it's time to pull out a grammar guide to be certain, before I imply that I'm absolutely correct.

Greg

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:01 pm

By God.

RonC

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:03 pm

rpc9943 wrote:bunch of freaking geeks, man. trackpad, back on topic. whose up to code what i wish?

RONC

Ron, you are missing a subject, capitalization, and have disagreement between your implied subject and your informal salutation. Furthermore, you failed to construct a proper contraction-- the very offence for which you chastised the young Braj. For future reference:

"You are a bunch of freaking geeks, men. Let's get back on topic, discussing TrackPad. Who's up to coding that which I wished for?"

Greg

piaz · Post by **piaz** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:08 pm

"This room is not," said Bob, "tidy."

This is the way we use it in French. I thought I had to point this out, since our respective grammar rules are "just" completely different otherwise, mind you.

valley · Post by **valley** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:14 pm

Lunch Money wrote: I've also been wrong before, and perhaps it's time to pull out a grammar guide to be certain, before I imply that I'm absolutely correct.

Feel free to. Also feel free to correct me on that if I'm wrong.

braj · Post by **braj** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:31 pm

Lunch Money wrote: "You are a bunch of freaking geeks, men. Let's get back on topic, discussing TrackPad. Who's up to coding that which I wished for?"

I believe this should be 'Who's up to coding that for which I've wished?"

And Ronald, you started it!

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:40 pm

who seriously is up to it?

RON

braj · Post by **braj** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:48 pm

rpc9943 wrote:who seriously is up to it?

RON

Try pinging -daniel. He's a very nice guy.

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