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Schünster · Post by **Schünster** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:35 am

Some VST-Instruments also come with built in reverb effects. The reverbs of Sytrus or rgc z3ta+ for example don't sound bad at all in my opinion. The z3ta+ reverb can even be used for other instruments (as seperate vst effect).
My question: How about the quality of built in reverbs in general and can they be a serious replacement for seperate, commercial effect plugins?

abi · Post by **abi** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:51 am

given that quality reverbs like the W2 or others are always quite heavy on the cpu, i would go for a tc powercore or a UAD card. especially the uad plate and their other reverbs are great. plus you get a bunch of real quality eq and dynamic plugins. if money isn´t an issue get the uad studio pak. i think it´s unbeatable value for money. wish i had the money....

ericj23 · Post by **ericj23** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:18 am

loook up vss3 at the tc site - that is the one - and if you need plates get a uad or the tc emt plate

lharless · Post by **lharless** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:53 am

how about a fender spring reverb? have any of you tried that? you'd have to be willing to commit to the mic'd sound. do any of you in here even own mics? or are you mostly midi?

jv2222 · Post by **jv2222** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:40 pm

I was just blown away by the altiverb video. Now I'm gonna have to go out and buy a mac darnit.

rockstar_not · Post by **rockstar_not** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:28 pm

pw wrote:The native reverb is freeverb, Jules mentioned it ages ago.

I was just going to post this but it looks like I'm a couple days late.

-Scott

lharless · Post by **lharless** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:54 pm

QUESTION: What is the best most real sounding reverb that can be used with Tracktion 2? Cost is not an issue. I just want the best.

ANSWER: A source in a real room, recorded via microphone. All hardware and software alternatives seek to emulate room sound. Get yourself a good sounding room and you have the best sounding reverb. Simply put.

The criteria did not mention cost. The criteria did not mention the reverb had to be artificial. The question did not hint at anything other than, "What is the best most real sounding reverb that can be used with Tracktion 2? Cost is not an issue. I just want the best.".

Thus real reverberation would be the logical answer to the question posed.

Elementary my dear tracktioneers!

Barbarossa · Post by **Barbarossa** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:40 pm

lharless wrote:QUESTION: What is the best most real sounding reverb that can be used with Tracktion 2? Cost is not an issue. I just want the best.

ANSWER: A source in a real room, recorded via microphone. All hardware and software alternatives seek to emulate room sound.

I totally disagree.
A Lexicon doesn't sound 'natural' - they sound musical.
And my experience is, that real world impulses, are not useful at all i.e. for dance-prod.
IMO it's not realism that makes a good reverb, it's the spaciousness it creates.

Schünster · Post by **Schünster** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:42 pm

OK, I'm not an expert at all, so here's a rather basic (and maybe stupid) question: is it possible to combine the qualities of different reverbs by using them in series or does that only raise the cpu load without positive effect? What are your experiences?
And another question: did you ever compare software reverbs at different samplerates?

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:51 pm

Running different verbs in parallel is a common technique.. in series is less likely to work well, but dont let that stop you trying it!

Schünster · Post by **Schünster** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:08 pm

.. in series is less likely to work well, but dont let that stop you trying it!

I only asked because I've read something about reverb reverberation somewhere and I thought this may be something similar.

jens · Post by **jens** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:10 pm

Schünster wrote:OK, I'm not an expert at all, so here's a rather basic (and maybe stupid) question: is it possible to combine the qualities of different reverbs by using them in series or does that only raise the cpu load without positive effect? What are your experiences?

combining two reverbs in line makes sense - one for the 'room' and one for the 'ambience'

there's on some Cakewalk related site a tutorial about this technique but I can't find it right now...

mandolarian · Post by **mandolarian** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:12 pm

Yes, I combine different verbs all the time. Both serial and parallel. Some verbs have awesome early reflections and others have great tails. And then you throw a slow chorus in between. A nice combo is Classic verb and Airies verb. Or Roomverb and Glaceverb.

There's never been so many ways to turn your mix into a big soggy mudfest! Dang, I love this DAW world!

Schünster · Post by **Schünster** » Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:30 pm

jens wrote:there's on some Cakewalk related site a tutorial about this technique but I can't find it right now... Confused

Thank you for the tip. Maybe Google knows more.

oxbee · Post by **oxbee** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:04 pm

Glaceverb is an incredible reverb. Just forget it's free. I still don't understand why as it could have been sold at a stupid high price.

But it definitely rules especially on acoustic sources. (voice, guitar, etc...)

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