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TristezaOrange · Post by **TristezaOrange** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:32 pm

XTC should've been legends but somehow they're that band everybody has heard about but no one has actually listened...

flex42 · Post by **flex42** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:35 pm

crimsontider wrote:Most of the downfalls of course were drug related.

Most of the initial great music of course was drug related as well.

Derek up North · Post by **Derek up North** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:35 pm

duncanparsons wrote: I could cite others like Hatfield and the North/ National Health, who were successful in their territory, it's just a shame that the Glam and Punk era's didn't really go in for jiving in 15/8..

DSP

Hatfield and the North - now there's a band I haven't listened to in a while (must dig "Rotters Club" out).

How can any band named after a motorway sign fail to make it big

I always thought that Scritti Politti deserved more success, and I've always been surprised that more of the Celtic bands have never made it big outside of Scotland/Ireland (e.g. Runrig, Wolfstone, Capercaille).

Regards,

Derek.

flex42 · Post by **flex42** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:36 pm

The La's

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:41 pm

okay sometimes soemone says they hate how people misuse some words...here's one for me...I hate it when bands are called legends (usually a self ego stroking misuse of the term)

leg·end

NOUN:

An unverified story handed down from earlier times, especially one popularly believed to be historical.
A body or collection of such stories.
A romanticized or popularized myth of modern times.
One that inspires legends or achieves legendary fame.

An inscription or a title on an object, such as a coin.
An explanatory caption accompanying an illustration.
An explanatory table or list of the symbols appearing on a map or chart.

Are any bands legends? Well besides Spinal Tap

Fame does not equal legendary, nor does fame equal success (except for those who are shallow and superficial).

This thread makes it soundlike there is something negative about not being huge, which in itself does not very often equal happiness. Perhaps some of the bands you mentioned didn't want what you call legendary status

It's been my experience that becoming "pop stars" has killed more talented artists then everything else put together (both physical death and/or destroyed their artistic drive)

In fact the only musicians that may actually approach legendary status are those who died young and have had many stories embellished or made about them...

crimsontider · Post by **crimsontider** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:51 pm

flex42 wrote:
crimsontider wrote:Most of the downfalls of course were drug related.
Most of the initial great music of course was drug related as well.

This is very true. Some of my favorites from bands that I like were created during that dark drug induced period just before burnout.

ancoats · Post by **ancoats** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:55 pm

Jonny X wrote:My fave two are garage ex-legends Mike Skinner and Dizzee Rascal... Both suffering from acute second album syndrome

Not avin that. A Grand dont Come For Free, is a great album by anyones standards.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:57 pm

ancoats wrote:
Jonny X wrote:My fave two are garage ex-legends Mike Skinner and Dizzee Rascal... Both suffering from acute second album syndrome
Not avin that. A Grand dont Come For Free, is a great album by anyones standards.

No, its shit. His first album was ok for novelty value, but the second one is pure drivel. You should understand that.

McLilith · Post by **McLilith** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:00 pm

Hink wrote:In fact the only musicians that may actually approach legendary status are those who died young and have had many stories embellished or made about them...

In that sense, The Doors would possibly be the most legendary band of the modern era.

Elvis is probably the most legendary solo artist, possibly followed by John Lennon and Jimmy Hendrix. Then, there's that little story of Robert Johnson selling his soul to the devil, in exchange for being able to play the blues so well.

However, Mozart would probably be at the top of the all-time most legendary list.

Now, if Guns 'n Roses had quit becuase Axl Rose had died tragically at the height of their popularity, instead of them simply splitting up, then that band would have also been truly legendary. (That's not to say that I want Axl dead, mind you. I liked Axl. I just wish he had been more stable and productive.)

take care,
McLilith

ancoats · Post by **ancoats** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:01 pm

Kriminal wrote:
ancoats wrote:
Jonny X wrote:My fave two are garage ex-legends Mike Skinner and Dizzee Rascal... Both suffering from acute second album syndrome
Not avin that. A Grand dont Come For Free, is a great album by anyones standards.
No, its shit. His first album was ok for novelty value, but the second one is pure drivel. You should understand that.

Oh dear. Stop following me around ya perv

Failed Muso · Post by **Failed Muso** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:01 pm

Derek up North wrote:I always thought that Scritti Politti deserved more success.

I wholeheartedly second that.

Green Gartside is a genius.

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:03 pm

a true leg end

multree · Post by **multree** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:03 pm

Stupid American Pig wrote:"drown"(among others) is nothing short of awe inspiring.

propably there best song ever...

Billy was the one who showed me that guitar solos can be fun (to listen to

)

crimsontider · Post by **crimsontider** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:14 pm

Stupid American Pig wrote: Jimmy Chamberlin is one of the best drummers of all time, and the work he did on smashing pumpkins "drown"(among others) is nothing short of awe inspiring.

He was under-rated for sure. He had a goove about his playing that reminds me of john bonham. I totally agree that he is one of the best all time rock drummers.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:30 pm

McLilith wrote:
Hink wrote:In fact the only musicians that may actually approach legendary status are those who died young and have had many stories embellished or made about them...
In that sense, The Doors would possibly be the most legendary band of the modern era.

Elvis is probably the most legendary solo artist, possibly followed by John Lennon and Jimmy Hendrix. Then, there's that little story of Robert Johnson selling his soul to the devil, in exchange for being able to play the blues so well.

However, Mozart would probably be at the top of the all-time most legendary list.

Now, if Guns 'n Roses had quit becuase Axl Rose had died tragically at the height of their popularity, instead of them simply splitting up, then that band would have also been truly legendary. (That's not to say that I want Axl dead, mind you. I liked Axl. I just wish he had been more stable and productive.)

take care,
McLilith

I agree, but I believe that local bands that go no where at all tend to be more legendary then the famous (using the text book definition of legend). Present company included. I was always just local, but my locale changed several times in my 20's. When in school I moved out to very Rural Mass, and though I didn't grow up in Boston my hometown was close to town.

When I moved out to the sticks I was "that kid from Boston". This was back 'bout 84...soon I befriended "Crazy Ike" a local kid who was quite colorful (as it Ike still is my best friend). I introduced him to bass and soon we found a drummer...Ike got good on bass fast, and he could sing. That alone was a major local draw for us..."you gotta see crazy ike man, you won't believe it" and of course that kid from Boston. I stuck in the area until just about the end of the 80's. By then we were more known for the product we sold to support our band...

Now it's not that far, and I have many friends there, or friends from that area (Wichendon/Gardener area). Sometimes I go back, usually I just go out Ike's house, but I do keep in touch with other friends (lost one last summer, 45 and just dropped dead). It has become a joke because of the way I moved. One Tuesday I came here to Lowell, got an apartment and was living in it by Saturday.

So what happens...it seems I was hired by a major rock band or got signed and overdosed...or I'm someone else "I know their guitarist"...or I went crazy and sold my guitars after my bus accident...but here I am...not much to talk about...

Now look around your area and see if you don't find a true legend that is similar...urban rock myths if you will...

Bands that could've become true legends, but instead. . ..