Payola Shocker: J-Lo Hits, Others Were 'Bought' by Sony.

[crimsontider]

Interesting yet unsurprising article and all, but what the hell were you doing on foxnews.com?

Because I'm a concervative maybe?

If you're a real, honest conservative,* you ought to be all the more appalled

Yeah you "liberals" are real good at suggesting what the public "ought" to think.

A bit overzealous considering politics was not the thread topic?

[Derek up North]

Long pieces, risque lyrics full of double-entendres

Long pieces, double-entendres, nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more squire

Regards,

Derek.

[Meffy]

Yeah you "liberals" are real good at suggesting what the public "ought" to think. :roll:

Sorry, it's some of the most responsible, genuine conservatives who have spoken out most strongly and vigorously against the theft of the Republican party from them. (The ones brave enough to do so.) But enough of that, payola is the topic and I'll bow out, having had my say on that too.

[Meffy]

Okay, I will say this much more: crimsontider, with regard to the payola thing we are entirely in agreement. Money has bought the airwaves and those with the most money and the lowest ethics dictate what radio listeners will hear. Which is one reason I almost never listen to commercial radio, and haven't done for about three decades... since I became an announcer at a NON-commercial station.

[crimsontider]

Are you joking?
During the period we are discussing yes the Bee Gees were disco.

No, I am not joking. Anyone who says that the Bee Gees were disco has either heard very little disco, and/or very little Bee Gees.

According to generally accepted definition of disco and generally accepted reviews of the Bee Gee's 70's music, yes they were considered disco. If your definition has strayed from the generally accepted definition of disco, don't you believe it would help your point of view to state your definition?

I am very much familiar with the BeeGee's music of that period and it fits the definition. The tempo, bass lines, hihat and even lyrics reeks of disco-
"Popular dance music, especially of the late 1970s, characterized by strong repetitive bass rhythms" as listed in nearly every dictionary.

You obviously like disco and know a lot about it and you probably know the standard definition and realize that yours is less broad. Why not point this out in your argument?

[Meffy]

I was around back then, heard a lot of disco and far too much disco-era Bee Gees. On this I'm with the Alabamian fellow -- if they weren't performing disco, what was that... *shudder* stuff?

puzzling evidence?

[nuffink]

We are not worthy.

[kuniklo]

As an experiment I'm listening to only free netmusic for at least a month, or longer if I'm still digging it at that point.

Stuff like this just makes me more determined to do this, although it's not really new information.

I'm going to build links to all the good stuff I find, starting here:

http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/kuniklo

[haydxn]

sod the disco argument, anyone remember the 'rap' in the bee-gees song "this is your life"?

that's really trying too hard...

[crimsontider]

lowest ethics dictate what radio listeners will hear.

And the lowest IQ's

Kind of ticks me off that the recording empires blame their stagnant sales solely on P2P. Now I realize that file sharing plays into that somewhat but the crap their pushing plays a greater role IMO. These recording companies are trying to push for such invasive actions as CPU and chipset level indentification and legalizing their hard drive scanning worms to the world all. Hopefully this investigation will help shed some light on the bigger reason why the public is not buying into what their serving these days. It sucks!

These actions in the name of P2P are probably similar to how you see the "Patriot Act" as related to criminals?

[Meffy]

There's a lot in common, yes. Of course the "Patriot" Act also seeks to take away the civil liberties of just about EVERY citizen, regardless of criminality or even suspicion of criminality. And it's succeeding. But that's another discussion for another day.

[crimsontider]

There's a lot in common, yes. Of course the "Patriot" Act also seeks to take away the civil liberties of just about EVERY citizen, regardless of criminality or even suspicion of criminality. And it's succeeding. But that's another discussion for another day.

[Meffy]

Ripping into '70s disco music is far more fun than politics.

Disclaimer: Some very dear friends of mine adore disco. *shrug* Tastes -- no accounting for 'em. For them as likes it, fine. But I don't.

[VicDiesel]

Disclaimer: Some very dear friends of mine adore disco. *shrug* Tastes -- no accounting for 'em. For them as likes it, fine. But I don't.

There's the disco that made it to the airwaves: Anita Ward, "Ring my bell", which is of course awful. The Bee Gees come close.

And then there is a lot of disco that's basically Philadelphia soul with a more solid beat. Gamble & Huff stuff, and a lot of that is pretty cool. First Choice, Lolleatta Holloway, and my favourite unknown group: Double Exposure. Check out their "Ten Percent" album.

Ok, so you have to like overproduced music, but there is a lot to enjoy. The song writing is as good as any soul from that era, and some of the arrangements are amazing.

[Meffy]

Might have something to do with how you dance. Y'all tail-less humans don't like the same rhythms as those of us more generously endowed in the caudal department. ;-) I like odd meters and such.

Overproduced is okay in my book. I'm very much into prog rock -- cosmicness does it for me.