whats the stupidest 'anti software' argument u've heard?

[dsp music]

It's cheating.
You are not really playing the music, the computer does.

i heard that argument a thousand times also ...
quite annoying in the beginning ...

then i realized that the people who says so don't know a single shit of what they were talking about

[Hink]

It's cheating.
You are not really playing the music, the computer does.

i heard that argument a thousand times also ...
quite annoying in the beginning ...

theni realizaed that the people who sais so didn't knew a single shit of what they were talking about

I just pick up my gi-tar and say cheat my ass...

[Doogle]

I do think that with synths, the hardware vs. software debate does involve the hands on performance aspect. Of course, there's nothing stoping anyone wiring up a MIDI control surface to a softsynth, but even still, people perceive synths with dedicated control surfaces, as a 'better', more immediate option. If you could have a custom control surface for your favorite softsynth, that wouldn't be an issue.

[hesnotthemessiah]

Software gives you crabs

[snooky]

It's cheating.
You are not really playing the music, the computer does.

i heard that argument a thousand times also ...
quite annoying in the beginning ...

then i realized that the people who says so don't know a single shit of what they were talking about

and they are the very same ppl that think you get famous over night and that pop music "artists" make their own tunes...

[Meffy]

"What happens if you leave your programs sitting on top of your monitors and they all get erased, hmmm?"

This person thought software still all came on floppies... and that small-studio nearfields have no magnetic shielding. [edit] -- or that CD-ROMS and CD-Rs were affected by magnetism. Never did pin him down on that.

"If it was any good they'd charge a lot more than they do."

This from someone whose main criterion of value for every piece of gear is how much he paid for it (even if the same item's available elsewhere for less).

And of course variations on the "you're not really playing, it's the computer doing all the work."

Well, dag me with a fish stick! So you're making air molecules vibrate by yourself? Always figured that keyboard/guitar/amp/whatnot had something to do with it. =9_9=

[cold c]

"jitter"

Given that jitter is a hardware problem that is quite a good example. (Unless there is a jitter algorithm implemented in the VST plugin or instrument channel... )

[tee boy]

Iv had idiots try to tell me before that software is cheating, because it does everything for you.

Lol

I had to explain that mixing with software is considerably more involved that mixing in analogue. No lovely tubes, tapes and circuits to give everything a lovely warm sheen.

It does seem to be a misconception though, that somewhere inside the computer is a button that makes everything sound great. Bad Ejay!!!

[spacefox]

People think that software does all the work for you, but don't use it? These are indeed stupid people.

[coldmachine]

"I had to explain that mixing with software is considerably more involved that mixing in analogue"......Bollox

[the_nihilist]

The clock inside computers is very drifty and not precise. So, there is no way a soft synth is going to output a stable clocked version of its sound from computer code on an Mac or Intel system. PC generated tones are not clocked as tight as their 16 bit VA counterparts. The computer multi tasks its code, and could never ever make percision audio shine, especially for tone generation.

Idiots...

[Hink]

The clock inside computers is very drifty and not precise. So, there is no way a soft synth is going to output a stable clocked version of its sound from computer code on an Mac or Intel system. PC generated tones are not clocked as tight as their 16 bit VA counterparts. The computer multi tasks its code, and could never ever make percision audio shine, especially for tone generation.

Idiots...

that is kinda funny...like a R2R ever ran at more perfect speeds...

[Har]

There's nothing quite like aging boomer musicians for delivering comments like these...

For example, here's one from one of the guitarists (who's honestly a nice guy who means well) in my little acoustic trio when I first started playing with them earlier this year, and who considered himself some kind of expert in music technology...with barely-understood slapped-together concepts left over from the 80's:
"Oh man, digital recording technology today just doesn't have enough sampling bandwidth yet to sound accurate and true enough like analog gear does! Now, my vintage Ibanez analog rack effect unit sounds way better than anything digital can do..."

...after which he started bragging about this great new state of the art soundcard that he got for his computer..."it goes all the way up to 24 bit, has digital connectors and everything, man!"...and which turned out to be an Audigy...

Eventually I sat down with him and started explaining how music technology has been doing much better than 80's quality 8-bit digital recording for, errrr, quite some time now....he's since been keeping kinda quiet with such opinions anymore and has been handing over our demo tracks to me to mix for the club-owners instead of using that ass-kickin' Soundblaster Audigy of his....

[Meffy]

great new state of the art soundcard that he got for his computer..."

... de har har! :-D Great story.

P.S.: I'm an aging boomer but I'm too simple-minded to fool myself with such spurious arguments.

[herodotus]

Arguments??

hmmm.....

Monkeys are evil

All software is made by monkeys

Therefore, all software is evil.

or

All software developers eat fish

some people who eat fish are pornographers

Therefore all software developers are pornographers.

This one is doubly false as it comes to a general conclusion from a specific premise.

And the classic, of course is

All humans evolved from monkeys

All software developers are humans

Therefore, all software developers are monkeys.


This is false due to the uncertainty of the second premise.