BETABUGS - PhaseBug & SpinBug RELEASED
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aaroncavanaugh2 aaroncavanaugh2 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=46091
- KVRist
- 131 posts since 28 Oct, 2004
Hi,
Boo for the installers. What happened to just the dll version?
Thanks. God Bless.
Aaron.
Boo for the installers. What happened to just the dll version?
Thanks. God Bless.
Aaron.
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- KVRist
- 292 posts since 25 Dec, 2003 from Bay Area, CA, USA
You guys are great, thanks. These two releases are especially useful. I'd love to see plain DLL downloads too.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
At the end of the day, it's just cleaner and easier to manage if we use installers. As mentioned in other threads, our particular installer is clean as soap, so don't worry about your registries. I can't say that I'd argue with .dll versions, either; however, I test all of our installers before release (one last check of the installer and plug-in) and none of them have ever caused me a headache. With literally hundreds of installs and uninstalls (due to testing) I can say without reservation that it's just as quick or quicker, and is clean.
I don't think we've ruled out .dll downloads completely, but for now it makes our lives a bit easier and the web-space a bit cleaner to just maintain the installer versions.
Cheers for the input! Marybelle, I can get you the phone number of a few of our hunky developers, but you didn't say which of us you're in love with! I'm the best-looking, funniest, most intelligent, and (of course) most humble of the lot; but alas, I am spoken for.
Greg
I don't think we've ruled out .dll downloads completely, but for now it makes our lives a bit easier and the web-space a bit cleaner to just maintain the installer versions.
Cheers for the input! Marybelle, I can get you the phone number of a few of our hunky developers, but you didn't say which of us you're in love with! I'm the best-looking, funniest, most intelligent, and (of course) most humble of the lot; but alas, I am spoken for.
Greg
- AcousticHippie
- Topic Starter
- 4769 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
- AcousticHippie
- Topic Starter
- 4769 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
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- KVRAF
- 3299 posts since 7 May, 2004 from Athens, Greece
Hi Alex, Christian, Greg and all betabuggers. I love the sound of spinbug on my guitar. I had some stability problems with T but I hope it'll be OK with the last version. Gonna try them tonight. So a BIG THANKS for the gifts.
If I go insane, please don't put your wires in my brain


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- KVRist
- 38 posts since 20 Jul, 2002 from Denmark
Regarding PhaseBug - a question:
How can the phase shift be measured in degrees (+/- 180) ? ... as far as I can figure, in order for this to mean anything, you would have to know at what frequency this is measured? - I mean, 45 degrees for example, could mean 7 msec at 1 Hz or 0.7 at 10 Hz etc., couldn't it??
Wouldn't it make more sense to just specify the phase shift in milliseconds?
How can the phase shift be measured in degrees (+/- 180) ? ... as far as I can figure, in order for this to mean anything, you would have to know at what frequency this is measured? - I mean, 45 degrees for example, could mean 7 msec at 1 Hz or 0.7 at 10 Hz etc., couldn't it??
Wouldn't it make more sense to just specify the phase shift in milliseconds?
.mindplay. [ http://www.mindplay.dk ]
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- KVRian
- 742 posts since 22 Jun, 2004
The phase shift is treated as a phasor moving round a unit circle (and going from 0 - 360o). Thats why its in degrees. It makes no sense to have the phase shift in ms..
phase is alvays treated as a degrees, both in maths and audio, because thats the most natural way of looking at it. It has a relationship with the frequency, but not in the way that you are thinking.
If you wanna know more i head over to www.musicdsp.com and check out some of the information on hte FFT (or just google FFT) - that will give you more information..
Paul
phase is alvays treated as a degrees, both in maths and audio, because thats the most natural way of looking at it. It has a relationship with the frequency, but not in the way that you are thinking.
If you wanna know more i head over to www.musicdsp.com and check out some of the information on hte FFT (or just google FFT) - that will give you more information..
Paul
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FXpansion Audio UK Ltd
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Christian Budde Christian Budde https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=25572
- KVRAF
- 1538 posts since 14 May, 2004 from Europe
Thanks for the good explanation Paul 
Here's another addon: The thing you meant is group delay. This is measured in milliseconds and is the deviation (by frequency) of the phase.
Here's another addon: The thing you meant is group delay. This is measured in milliseconds and is the deviation (by frequency) of the phase.
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- KVRAF
- 3299 posts since 7 May, 2004 from Athens, Greece
SpinBug works flawlessly no on my T1.6 setup. Definately a keeper! Thanx guys.
If I go insane, please don't put your wires in my brain


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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Glad to hear it! She's a beaut. For me, as primarily a documentation guy, it's just as exciting for me to try out 'our' new plug-ins as the developers refine and resubmit them as it is for the public at large to have their first taste. 
Or in other words, as a non-programmer, it's still a lot of great-sounding and fun magic voodoo for me. <chuckle>
Or in other words, as a non-programmer, it's still a lot of great-sounding and fun magic voodoo for me. <chuckle>
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
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- KVRist
- 125 posts since 28 May, 2005 from Maine
Damn! You really got me with the intelligent thing and then let me CRASH!Cheers for the input! Marybelle, I can get you the phone number of a few of our hunky developers, but you didn't say which of us you're in love with! I'm the best-looking, funniest, most intelligent, and (of course) most humble of the lot; but alas, I am spoken for.
Anyway, I'm using the final version of SpinBug wrapped into CE2000 and when I put the LFO to zero, I get this 8000db white noise blast. Is there still some bugs to work out?
I try to care and understand.

