Using a high latency plugin as a Send.

[ceenda]

I'm really fond of Voxengo Pristine Space Light, though to save some CPU I usually set it's internal latency settings to something which, as a send, turns out to be quite noticeable.

Whilst I stick PristineSpace into the Master section and control Dry/Wet from inside the plugin, I'd much rather have PristineSpace as a Send track and control how much reverb is being used per-track. Some instruments I don't want going to PristineSpace at all, so in a sense, the Master section idea is a complete non-starter.

I understand that PDC doesn't work on Aux Send/Return tracks in Tracktion.

How do set things up so that there isn't a noticeable delay between the raw track and the reverb? Even using Senderella, whilst the signal may get to the return track immediately, it still has to negotiate the internal delay of PristineSpace before joining the mix.

[Hovmod]

Won't it help if you load up an instance of the plug in an unused track, just to make Tracktion notice the latency? I haven't tried this, but it's what thinking about it came up with...

[IIRs]

Wrap PS in a rack, and configure that as an aux send.. it works with SIR anyway.

[ceenda]

Hovmod: Unfortunately, it's PristineSpace itself creating the latency, so the Dry signal is going straight to the mix but the Wet signal is being delayed inside PristineSpace on a seperate track. Thanks for the suggestion though.

IIRs: Of course. Or "what I used to do before T2 Aux/Sends appeared", as it's otherwise known. Thanks, that works great. Just checking that this is what you meant:



The track below was to make sure that the notes themselves are starting at the same time and that the track with the PristineSpace rack wasn't being delayed itself. But everything seems to be perfectly in time.

BTW - there seems to be a dropped notes problem with PDC-compensated tracks that isn't fixed with the Drop_Fix plugin. Is this a known issue?

[IIRs]

This will work so long as only one track is routed to the reverb, but it won't allow you to share the verb across multiple tracks like a proper aux send.

To do that, create another blank track, and copy the Pristine Space rack onto it. This is the "return" track, and the wet level should be fully up on this rack filter.

Now turn the wet level off completely for the rack filter on the "send" track, and instead use the "left input level" slider (linked to the right slider) to control how much of that track is sent to the reverb inputs.

Now, assuming PS is properly set up to produce 100% wet reverb, you can copy the filter from the send track to any other tracks you wish to share the verb, with seperate control of the amount for each. Adjusting the Vol / Pan filter on the return track will allow you to control overall reverb levels.

In other words, to set up a rack filter as a send you need to turn off wet levels and use the L/R input level sliders to control send amount.

To set up a rack as a return, simply make sure the wet level is fully up.

[ceenda]

In other words, to set up a rack filter as a send you need to turn off wet levels and use the L/R input level sliders to control send amount.

Works like a charm!

Seems that the PDC causes the first note to be dropped at the beginning, but it's not a problem to Ctrl-A and shift the song along the timeline a little bit.

[IIRs]