Alright guys I've been away for a couple days and I come back to all this.
Yes, I know you cant render audio to midi. I recorded midi notes into traktion for vsti's and I was trying to render a file from the data. Thanks to everyone else who helped out.
some of you guys just look for mistakes in forums so you can jump on peoples cases dont you?
Problem rendering midi file in traktion?
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ShaolinDrunkard ShaolinDrunkard https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=71489
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 44 posts since 10 Jun, 2005
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ShaolinDrunkard ShaolinDrunkard https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=71489
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 44 posts since 10 Jun, 2005
IIRs was right I just wanted a standard midi file.
I called it rendering because when you click export to midi file in traktion, it says "rendering" before its done.
I called it rendering because when you click export to midi file in traktion, it says "rendering" before its done.
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- KVRist
- 207 posts since 27 Mar, 2005 from Spain
Not so.ShaolinDrunkard wrote:some of you guys just look for mistakes in forums so you can jump on peoples cases dont you?
I queried the original post because, given the way in which it was worded, there were different constructions (and therefore, different answers) that could be inferred. I was merely trying to ascertain exactly what we were talking about - before anyone wasted a lot of time and trouble answering a question which was not the one being asked.
IME, exact questions get exact answers, imprecise ones likewise.
Graeme
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- KVRist
- 34 posts since 28 Oct, 2003
It's a constant source of amazement to me that people will ask poorly worded questions, which are grammatically or technically ambiguous to the point where they are meaningless, and then complain that people are "picking on them" or "being mean" when clarification is asked for.
Bad spelling is one thing, and if English isn't your native language we can all sympathize.
But let's be clear about one thing: if you want to get help, it's up to you to make your request clear. Nobody should have to decode your technical ambiguities or confusions in order to lend assistance.
I don't think anyone was picking on anyone in this post, only trying to gain clarity.
And - after all - clarity is what you are looking for when you have a question, right? So why not drop the "ooh you hurt my feelings by asking me to explain myself" nonsense, and uphold your part of the social bargain?
Bad spelling is one thing, and if English isn't your native language we can all sympathize.
But let's be clear about one thing: if you want to get help, it's up to you to make your request clear. Nobody should have to decode your technical ambiguities or confusions in order to lend assistance.
I don't think anyone was picking on anyone in this post, only trying to gain clarity.
And - after all - clarity is what you are looking for when you have a question, right? So why not drop the "ooh you hurt my feelings by asking me to explain myself" nonsense, and uphold your part of the social bargain?
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
As for me, I'm just pedantic (well known around here) and was interested in the linguistic debate that arose. I didn't have any particular agenda to pick on anyone, but rather wanted to get to the bottom of the word "render" because I personally don't think it's accurate in Tracktion-- that doesn't necessarily mean that I thought YOU were being inaccurate, but rather that 'export' to me is a more accurate term that should be used by Tracktion itself.
IIRs, don't get caught up in the words chosen (how's that for irony?)-- just because I used the word "final product" doesn't mean you should focus on that in order to resolve the debate; rather, what about the example of the wire-frame 3d drawings to be used by different programs? It perfectly illustrated the difference between a render and an export (IMO).
Sure, a classical composer's final product may be sheet music, but he's not likely to say that he "rendered" his thoughts to a sheet. Rather, he'll present his sheaf of papers (or electronic file) and say, "Here's my composition."
The word "render" actually has many definitions, and some of them could easily be applied correctly to the situation of producing a new MIDI file. However, before choosing one of those alternative definitions, one must figure out what the original intention of the word was. I'm convinced it comes from the same source as 'rendering' in graphics (perhaps simultaneously since the technology for both has been around for an equal length of time, though computer graphics came to prominence before computer recording). Since they're analogous, they should be used in the same way.
Just a counter-argument, not an etched-in-stone scripture.
Linguistics is one of my pet passions.
IIRs, don't get caught up in the words chosen (how's that for irony?)-- just because I used the word "final product" doesn't mean you should focus on that in order to resolve the debate; rather, what about the example of the wire-frame 3d drawings to be used by different programs? It perfectly illustrated the difference between a render and an export (IMO).
Sure, a classical composer's final product may be sheet music, but he's not likely to say that he "rendered" his thoughts to a sheet. Rather, he'll present his sheaf of papers (or electronic file) and say, "Here's my composition."
The word "render" actually has many definitions, and some of them could easily be applied correctly to the situation of producing a new MIDI file. However, before choosing one of those alternative definitions, one must figure out what the original intention of the word was. I'm convinced it comes from the same source as 'rendering' in graphics (perhaps simultaneously since the technology for both has been around for an equal length of time, though computer graphics came to prominence before computer recording). Since they're analogous, they should be used in the same way.
Just a counter-argument, not an etched-in-stone scripture.
Linguistics is one of my pet passions.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Hasn't it already been answered?
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ShaolinDrunkard ShaolinDrunkard https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=71489
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 44 posts since 10 Jun, 2005
Alright guys, sorry if I offended you...
Lets hug.
Yes, my question was answered in several different ways, none of which worked. Thanks for the help anyway though.
Lets hug.
Yes, my question was answered in several different ways, none of which worked. Thanks for the help anyway though.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
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will.record.for.food will.record.for.food https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=47978
- KVRist
- 222 posts since 14 Nov, 2004 from TX
Hey ShaolinDrunkar...please come back and simply let us know if you recorded audio, or you played through a keyboard and captured MIDI..
"only you can prevent forum fires"
"only you can prevent forum fires"
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ShaolinDrunkard ShaolinDrunkard https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=71489
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 44 posts since 10 Jun, 2005
I explained earlier that I was trying to get a standard midi file from midi notes that I recorded into traktion. NO AUDIO! only midi data. If you go to export, and go the export midi file, it says "rendering" as it attempts to make the .mid file. However when its done "rendering" no file is created in the directory I choose. I tried all the suggestions you guys gave but none of them worked.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
It works, if you make sure the midi is routed to a midi out, and all filters that don't pass midi are disabled.. try again!