Amplitube 2 vs. GTR

[hello1234]

yawn.........

are we there yet?

[Pollux]

apparently not...

squids?

[Squids]

Sorry. Yes, its coming very soon. Hang in there. Worth the wait. It is the best thing ever IMO and I HAVE heard it. You'll have to see for yourself to agree I fully realize!

My system? I have several systems. I have a G5 system with ProTools HD. I have a G4 laptop with several firewire interfaces. Then a PC laptop and desktop. I have Motu interfaces, PreSonus, Metric Halo and some M-Audio Firewire 410s which come in handy quite a bit. So, on the PC I run AmpliTube 2 (my early version from the trade show that I use) I have a Firewire 410. It is a 3 gig P4 with 1 gig of ram (or maybe 2 gigs actually) and tons of HD inside (hey, we have to! More sounds than you could possibly imagine).

ETA on AT2? Not sure exactly but it is getting ready to be released as is CSR. Ampeg will follow not long after.

[scottedog]

Suggestion/advice falling on deaf ears?

[Squids]

Suggestion/advice falling on deaf ears?

Not sure what that means. But, I do like Scott-e-dogs.

You know the expression good things come to those that wait? Anyway, if anyone thinks they're not going to get it because of the time from announcement to release they are limiting themselves incredibly. Of course, we all need to make music and no one likes to wait for a tool they want to use. But, when it is here? It's going to be something that certain people (like myself) would never be without. There are many, many reasons. But, a lot of those things are evident I think even from the released information which is pretty hot! But, anyway, I don't expect you guys to go on my word. You'll see it, touch it, taste it soon. I'll try to find out an ETA though for you guys if I can.

[Alouf]

So, on the PC I run AmpliTube 2 (my early version from the trade show that I use) I have a Firewire 410. It is a 3 gig P4 with 1 gig of ram (or maybe 2 gigs actually) and tons of HD inside (hey, we have to! More sounds than you could possibly imagine).

ETA on AT2? Not sure exactly but it is getting ready to be released as is CSR. Ampeg will follow not long after.

What is CSR?

Squids, do you directly plug in the guitar into the FireWire 410? or do you use a preamp or something else?

Just out of curiosity, where do you output the sound of that Amplitube2 system ( brand and model of speakrs if possible)?

Thanks.

[Squids]

So, on the PC I run AmpliTube 2 (my early version from the trade show that I use) I have a Firewire 410. It is a 3 gig P4 with 1 gig of ram (or maybe 2 gigs actually) and tons of HD inside (hey, we have to! More sounds than you could possibly imagine).

ETA on AT2? Not sure exactly but it is getting ready to be released as is CSR. Ampeg will follow not long after.

What is CSR?

Squids, do you directly plug in the guitar into the FireWire 410? or do you use a preamp or something else?

Just out of curiosity, where do you output the sound of that Amplitube2 system ( brand and model of speakrs if possible)?

Thanks.

CSR is IK's upcoming "Classik Studio Reverb" which gives you the sound and features of what would be an expensive reverb in hardware.

You can plug the guitar directly into the firewire 410. Although I often go through an Avalon, API or Neve Mic pre on the line input when I am recording.

As for speakers, this depends. Studio speakers we use are Dynaudios and Genelecs. But, I have this interesting system that is designed for guitar amplification. I'll tell you more about that soon.

[Alouf]

As for speakers, this depends. Studio speakers we use are Dynaudios and Genelecs. But, I have this interesting system that is designed for guitar amplification. I'll tell you more about that soon.

That is what I want to know, because frankly my speakers suck at playing guitar and are really aweful when it comes to distorted sounds.

I will be waiting to hear from you on that matter.

[Sascha Franck]

Isn't the whole purpose of an amp simulation to sound great through studio speakers?

[Squids]

Isn't the whole purpose of an amp simulation to sound great through studio speakers?

The main purpose as I see it is to sound good on your recordings and your recordings are played through whatever speakers you got. But, if you are playing it live or for your own enjoyment and you want to crank it then that's different. A set of studio speakers is great. But, to jam with there are some other things that can be used. Mainly a PA is fine but there are actually some nice speaker set ups for guitar amplification that don't have any colorization.

[Sascha Franck]

but there are actually some nice speaker set ups for guitar amplification that don't have any colorization.

In case you're talking about "stock" guitar speaker cabs I strongly disagree.
Even more to the opposite. I bought all my cabs because they color the sound in a certain way.
And then, in case I'd run an amp simulation through them, I'd certainly switch the cab simulation off.

As said, for me the purpose of a "complete" amp simulation (read: amp plus cab and probably a variety of mics) is to have it sound great on whatever fullrange system, be it a HiFi thingy, studio monitors or a live PA.

Whatever, I'd buy a simulation for that purpose. For live playing there's better things, regardless of how good AT2 will be - mainly regarding ease of use and "utility" stuff. Need all your clean patches to be a bit brighter? No deal at all using an analog amp, I just turn up the trebles. Impossible with any digital simulation because companies just don't implement proper global utility modes. I'll gladly elaborate on that, in case you're interested...
In any case, as long as nobody will come up with a decent solution, I will NEVER use any digital preamp stuff live.

[CatBoy]

weirdo man
new concept on speakers i guess.
I'm guessing "jam" means live. A PA would be last thing on earth to use.
actually,I would'nt use it if it were the last thing....lol
I've run several amp sims thru 2 Marshall 100 watt plexi's for stereo effect.
And run Plexi's thru vintage Marshall cabs. (greenbacks)
I had my Bogner setup right next to it and one sim came very close in feel and sound.
But,I could run just about anything thru that marshall setup and it would sound
pretty damn good. Even a Boss DS-1 sounds great.
I could never get my stereo loud enough in my house to get the feel I go for.
Studio Only!

But I'm anxious to see midimans creation also.
I like what see from Amp 2 and Midiman's amp sim

[Squids]

A lot of guitars and instruments sound good through the PA, if it is a good PA. Yes, you can also run just the stomps and rack fx through hardware guitar amps like Marshalls, Vox, Fenders etc. One of the things I love about AmpliTube 2 is that you can save a whole instantly recalled sound with configurable stomp effects (that sound very much like the hardware they emulate). So, for that reason I think it would be a great tool live. But, it depends on the gig and if you need a variety of sounds or if a particular hardware set up does the trick. Nothing like a great hardware rig of course. Although you can control volumes with amp sims for smaller shows too... these are all just tools of course and people can use them however they want! To each his own.

I for one don't limit myself on what I would and wouldn't use live. It depends on the need, context etc.

[A3ntar]

Whoa! Today I gave GreenMachine Amp II a try, and let me tell you man, what a nice VsT plugin! The distortion are just unreal and unequaled in the VsT world. Squids, please tell me that Amplitube 2 distortion is equal or better ( because frankly, Amplitube 1 distortion sucked ass )

[kovacs]

frankly my speakers suck at playing guitar

You know, mine do too. I wish they could play the keyboards, though...