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Squids · Post by **Squids** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:19 am

Alouf wrote:I never got a good sound with either GuitarRig demo or Amplitube demo. They both sound fake. I am using a Yamaha MG10/2 mixer as input for my guitar.

The only useable distortion I got was with GreenMachine II.

I'll check out the GreenMachine at some point just out of curiosity.

Obviously a "good distortion" IS still subjective. But, I think a lot of people who have not liked amp simulation and modeled effects before may become believers when they hear AT2. Of course the many thousands that really love AmpliTube 1 will be floored with AT2 without a doubt.

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:30 am

I have been asked by several people about modification to the ART pre amp so I post my answer here to Alouf as an answer to other people as well:

Hi Alouf

OK I must say this right up front, I studied electrical engineering in college and I also used to own a TV repair shop for 10 years so I can do these things and I must add it wasn't the easiest thing in the world.
If you do not have any experience in electronics you most likely won't be able to make any modifications to the circuitry.

If you think you are up to it you can just e-mail their tech support and ask for the circuit schematics.
They e-mailed it to me free of charge.
I basically took the mic variable impedance load control and turned into "tube drive".
Then I have a bypass switch that sets the op-amp input stage to 1:1 amplification leaving the tube drive to do all the work.
If you are up to it and have the schematics in hand I will be more then happy to tell you the exact components changed.

There is one big flaw in the design of this unit and you can probably fix it even if you do not have that much knowledge in electronics.
The problem is that they put the power switch right next to CH1 input.
This is a 120Vac power line running right next to the mic input (what were they thinking?).
If you buy the unit you can confirm this by comparing CH1 to CH2.
CH1 will always be more noisy.
So just relocate that switch to the back or simply eliminate it.
What ever you do, you have to make sure no AC lines are running next to the input stage.

dc12 · Post by **dc12** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:42 am

i don't know what's the point with greenmachineII,amplitube1 and g.rig distortions are much better.
gmII is bad SE creation.

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:32 pm

I guess what Squids said is true. Distortions are subjectif. I personally hate Amplitube and Grig distortions. I sounds muffled and unprecise. GreenMachine on the other hand...it is much better, but not perfect. Btw DC12, your the first one that I read who dont like GMII.

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:33 pm

AndrewSimon, thanks for sharing the information.

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:17 pm

Hey Squids, do you have an A/B samples with Amplitube 2 and some of the physicall stomps or amps you have in your possession and that Amp2 models uses?

riley4reason · Post by **riley4reason** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:36 pm

Will Amplitube 2 have a foot controller? It's hard to use a mouse and play guitar at the same time.
But looks cool if you can pull it off.
Riley

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:15 pm

A3ntar wrote:Hey Squids, do you have an A/B samples with Amplitube 2 and some of the physicall stomps or amps you have in your possession and that Amp2 models uses?

Not yet but I plan to.

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:17 pm

Thanks my friend, we are all looking forward to hear them! Hourra for Squids!!!!!!!

Squids wrote:
A3ntar wrote:Hey Squids, do you have an A/B samples with Amplitube 2 and some of the physicall stomps or amps you have in your possession and that Amp2 models uses?
Not yet but I plan to.

hello1234 · Post by **hello1234** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:23 pm

pft on amplitube...........I need the ampeg bass plug to come out with a demo! I need it now.

Ok, I'll unhijack thread..........

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:25 pm

eyeknow666 wrote:pft on amplitube...........I need the ampeg bass plug to come out with a demo! I need it now.

Ok, I'll unhijack thread..........

eyeknow what you mean.

Thanks guys.

Speaking of A/B comparisons, at NAMM there was an A/B comparison with the Ampeg SVX B15 and a real one side by side and people could not tell the difference. That was pretty cool. It was in both Ampeg's booth and the IK booth.

hello1234 · Post by **hello1234** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:34 pm

I want it........and I want it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:20 pm

STOP THE INSANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:02 pm

I want it NOW! Where is it?! I hope at least before next year

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:10 am

A3ntar wrote:I want it NOW! Where is it?! I hope at least before next year

It will be. Anyone who can should go to the IK booth at AES for some demonstrations first-hand plus... well... just go if you can!

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