Muse Research

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:26 pm

Is anyone using Akoustik Piano on Receptor?
It's still reading 'compatibility unknown' on the plug-in list here.

Watto · Post by **Watto** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:46 am

I'm curious about this also, as I've waited on buying any major piano samples til these come out (Akoustik, The Grand II, etc).

Grundman · Post by **Grundman** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:17 am

It needs about 15 GB of Hard Drive.... so at least you must start to think in upgrade the internal HD... About the sound, let me install it on a PC and I will come back.

Watto · Post by **Watto** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:12 pm

I'm getting the hard drive upgraded anyway, so that doesn't bother me.

Grundman · Post by **Grundman** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:02 pm

The product came with four pianos sampled in a pseudokontakt 2 rom player window. A funny thing is that the footer of every page in the manual is KONTAKT 2 from page 8 to page 40....

Well...in my humble opinion this product has not the sound quaility I was expecting. Only the upright piano sampled, the Steingraber 130, sounds pretty. Neither the Bossendofer or Bechestein or Steinway can match the sound of the PMI Old Lady or PMI Bossendorfer 290.

If you do not have any piano player, perhaps this product is a good choice, but for me, even The Grand, which needs a lot of less space and memory in the host, can beat the sound of this product.

To be honest, the Emperor played through Kompakt on Receptor is for the moment the best choice.

JayVee · Post by **JayVee** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:54 pm

Grundman,
Are you saying you've checked played Akoustik Piano?
And on Receptor?

Watto · Post by **Watto** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:48 pm

Grundman wrote:The product came with four pianos sampled in a pseudokontakt 2 rom player window. A funny thing is that the footer of every page in the manual is KONTAKT 2 from page 8 to page 40....

Well...in my humble opinion this product has not the sound quaility I was expecting. Only the upright piano sampled, the Steingraber 130, sounds pretty. Neither the Bossendofer or Bechestein or Steinway can match the sound of the PMI Old Lady or PMI Bossendorfer 290.

If you do not have any piano player, perhaps this product is a good choice, but for me, even The Grand, which needs a lot of less space and memory in the host, can beat the sound of this product.

To be honest, the Emperor played through Kompakt on Receptor is for the moment the best choice.

Hi Grundman,

Thanks for unintentionally rubbing it in (

) but the Grand doesn't run on Receptor, much to my chagrin, and the Muse boys tell me not to expect anything soon...

Thanks for the review on Akoustik, though - appreciate it. Oh, and I haven't tried Emperor, but I don't get the impression it's great for pop/rock/jazz etc, is it? I'm using Receptor mostly live, so I don't care at this point how the pianos sit in a studio mix - I need the punch of a live piano sound!

Cheers,

boogooloo1

DanTimis · Post by **DanTimis** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:19 am

What about the PMI Yamaha? I think that would be good for pop/rock/jazz.

My favorite is The Old Lady, but I play mostly classical.

Watto · Post by **Watto** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:29 am

How about Ivory? Is that a possibility when they port it to Windows, Dan?

I'll check out PMI Yamaha - the myriad of choices is killing me!

DanTimis · Post by **DanTimis** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:56 am

I don't know about Ivory until we can try it.

Watto · Post by **Watto** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:04 am

One of my more ill-thought-out questions...

Grundman · Post by **Grundman** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:27 am

Sorry if I do not explain well. I know The Grand does not run on Receptor and my review is only about Akousitk Piano on a PC and not on Receptor.

I can not install it on Receptor because I do not have more free space available (and now my Receptor is not near me).

AKoustik Piano is a choice if you want to record any improvisation due its built in recorder (but only in standalone mode). For me is the only reason for now.

There are also many cons to add like the time needed to load a preset and many others.

My thoughts about The Grand (vers. 1.2) and The Old Lady and The Emperor are about the quality of the sound and the feeling your receive when you are playing.

If we are talking about playing on a Receptor I think that for pop/rock you can load a less dinamyc preset or reduce the velocity curve in Kontakt. LAter you save it as a Kompakt instrument to install on Receptor. First you will reduce the amount of RAM needed and second you will load faster the preset. But to do that you need a Kontakt and a host computer.

Grundman · Post by **Grundman** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:29 am

And I forgot about Jazz but I think on Jazz you need th same dynamic than a classical piano so...let the samples as the factory presets.

gaijen · Post by **gaijen** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:46 pm

all the reports I have heard so far indicate that ivory is not well suited for live use..look into white grand jr or something like that..

PhilAiken · Post by **PhilAiken** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:26 pm

I've read a FEW reports like that, but more saying it was great for live use.
In general - the less ambience in the samples, the better in my opinion...
White Grand Jr. works very well on Receptor via Kompakt after you edit the velocity responses of the layers. Fits into RAM, also.