Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!

[Muzik 4 Machines]

it will bundled with duke nukem forever!

[A3ntar]

isn't it "Duke took'em forever"?

[Sascha Franck]

So, it says "ultra low latency USB interface" for the Stomp I/O thingy.
How low is "ultra low"?

Apart from that, the opening sites demo is just as lousy as it could get. I can get a sound as good (if not better) out of my 99 € VAmp. No kidding, I'm serious and I'll gladly prove it.
If this is what makes Squids go all in hyping mode, I'm sorry... then your taste surely is different than that of most of us.
But I'll wait for more sounds and a demo version.

Still, I'd really like to know how low ultra low latency is...

[A3ntar]

As low as a USB latency can go I guess. around 10ms. If it is USB2, then manye as low as 5ms. Low enough for live playing...These are pure speculations though. And as I have said before, the intro song is not impressive at all...Logically one would assume that it was made using AT2 since it is for the AT2 unveiling after all, and the song features a guitar sound ( altough a dull and lifeless one ).

[A3ntar]

I don't know about you guys, I am getting less and less excited about this release everyday

[Beardedone]

Still, I'd really like to know how low ultra low latency is...

I'll tell you: What I get from my V-mp is as low as I know.

[Lunch Money]

Regarding the 'intro' music-- you can't be seriously using that as a basis of judgement. It's gotta be something insanely compressed... 48kps would be generous. You can hear the compression artifacts like mad. It wasn't meant to be a demo of the actual sounds, but just a silly backdrop to a silly little splash page.

Wait for a real demo before getting all disappointed!

Greg

[A3ntar]

LOL, I think everybody here is feeding on everybody else's dissapointment...

It is good to have Lunch Money to cheer us up

[Sascha Franck]

I'll tell you: What I get from my V-mp is as low as I know.

I know... I'm in the same boat.

Yet, I could probably need some software solution for a variety of reasons.

I could build myself some sort of utility environment (probably using eXT) which almost all hardware amp simulations seem to lack of. Just one example: Clean sound too low for a given live session? On a real amp I'd just turn up the clean channel and it'd affect all patches using that channel. Impossible with ANY simulation. You'd have to alter AND resave EACH and EVERY clean patch. Not practicable at all. The same goes for an overall reverb level, for an overall EQ adjustment etc.
The same also goes for a global noise gate threshold - we all know what it sometimes could be like playing at a venue where the light rigs haven't been properly lifted away from the main power circuits...

This is the very reason why I still prefer using analog devices being only switched by MIDI for any live stuff.
Actually, it's truly lame that none of the current manufactures even spent a minute thinking about such stuff. In fact, my 10 year old GT-5 does it best so far. It has globally adjustable overall reverb levels, a simple overall EQ, global overall noise gate threshold and a global setting whether I want to use the speaker sim (allways, never, per patch - perfect!). Heck, it even comes with two custom amp models that can be globally modified. Almost perfect - unfortunately the sound isn't, plus the menus are small and clumsy to scroll through.
Oh, and fwiw, the GT-5 even saves my tapped tempo (for synced delays) globally! And, as if that wasn't good enough allready, it calculates the tempo out of 4 steps onto my tap button. Compare that to the lame POD/VAMp approach. Tapped tempos aren't saved, so they're only valid for the current patch. Once you switch back and forth, the settings are lost. Uber-lame. Add to this that they only need two taps to define the tempo, which, in a live context, is pretty much up to inaccuracies.

A software solution could easily adress any such issues, but even if they claim that their things are made for live useage, both programmers and testers didn't spend a second on ANYTHING being important for live musicians. Just because they're caught up too much in their lame "we're the sound gods" approach - so they simply forget about anything else and things will be released in a way NO live musician would ever want them to be like - unless you're just playing in a top 40 cover band. And that's exactly what Amplitube along with the StompIO seems to be designed for.

Oh yes, I've thought about all such things A FREAKING LOT as my main income is still made up by live playing.
And that's why I still carry around a top, a rack and a floor pedal - while I could *probably* do with a laptop.
Software programmers are just uber-lame when it comes to anything such as that, and I'm sure Amplitube will be no better regarding that aspect at all.
Others than keyboard players us guitar folks can't just press a sustain pedal or play with one hand only, to adjust a given sound while playing. That's why proper utility modes are required.

However, that's why I'd have to build myself some sort of modular environment, to overcome the limitations some programmers caught in their own leetness don't care to think about at all.

In addition, I'm planning to start some pretty much more experimental thingy with a few friends of mine.
I'd love to have a compact guitar solution for this too, so a combination of floor pedal and audio interface would be cool.

[AndrewSimon]

Just wanted to point out something to all the players that seek "that sound" emulation of a real tube amp.

Your guitar + Amplitube does NOT equal to
you standing in front of a real tube amp and blasting away.

Your guitar + Amplitube equals to you standing in the control room listening on the monitors to the recording of your amp you just did.

There is a difference and Amplitube1 does a pretty good job at it.
I have a feeling Amplitube2 will do an even greater job and all who have a realistic expectation will probably be happy.

[Sascha Franck]

There is a difference and Amplitube1 does a pretty good job at it.

My VAmp does a better job.

[AndrewSimon]

There is a difference and Amplitube1 does a pretty good job at it.

My VAmp does a better job.

I have Vamp2 as well and I disagree.
Vamp has some strong points but overall quality is not there.
Then again everybody is looking for something different.
Personally I am after a slightly distorted sound with everything else being super clean and with a wide dynamic range.
Vamp is not very good at this.

[Sascha Franck]

Well, for me it's still better than Amplitube. YMMV though, and apparently yours does. I mean, I didn't like the guitar sound samples you posted in the GTR thread either, so there, different tastes for different people...

[ChimeraMan]

Your guitar + Amplitube equals to you standing in the control room listening on the monitors to the recording of your amp you just did.

No amateur guitarist is going to believe that, mate!

Every time I hear "why does the guitar sound shit?" (coming from a software emulation that is), when it actually sounds shit-hot, I explain that very same thing and play them a recording of the same emulation with a pro player. Eventually they either back the f**k down like good little roadies or they bugger off back to their bedrooms.

Oh, and btw.. V-amp is utter toss!

[Sascha Franck]

Oh, and btw.. V-amp is utter toss!

I never said it was shit-hot either. But it's still better than Amplitube 1.
And yes, I know the differences between true recorded amps and an emulation. For whatever weird reasons, I play guitar to make my living...