Will SIR allow 'stealing' of an average spectrum from a song

[cptgone]

- CurveEQ does spectral matching
- check out Elevayta CloneBoy

[Beardedone]

So does Firium. I just wanted to hear other's experience with it. I haven't had much luck with it.

[kylen]

So does Firium. I just wanted to hear other's experience with it. I haven't had much luck with it.

Not much luck with firium matching either...Ozone3 has it also...I end up using CurveEQ because it's easier to modify the "suggested" EQ...somewhere it was mentioned, maybe in the Har-Bal thread - you ALWAYS have to modify suggested EQ curves to taste! Kinda like pre-sets, a little better maybe since at least some algorithm has at least listened to your audio first! It's up to you to choose a good reference to match to though...

[Beardedone]

I never tried it in Ozone3. I'll have look.

[Space Boy]

- CurveEQ does spectral matching
- check out Elevayta CloneBoy

While Clone Boy does this in real-time, I think it is not entirely what is desired here (Clone Boy uses a circular convolution for cross-synthesis effects).

FreEq Boy is better at capturing an average (magnitude) EQ which it can then merge (i.e. divide) with another captured EQ in order to transform the average EQ spectrum of one audio source into another.

Note: The captured EQs can also be exported in ASCII format if further offine processing is desired.


http://www.kvraudio.com/get/986.html
http://www.elevayta.com/product3.htm

Sorry for the picture, but the full capabilities of FreEq Boy are often overlooked.

[Lagrange]

Bearbone: Yea i use it everyday to take spectral fingerprint from one sound and put it on another.. I also use it like EA's inspector to monitor average spectrum curve... trust me it s an extremely handy plug and worth the coin...

C

[Lagrange]

GHAAK!! the problem I have with elevata is that they dont really fit any standard form of monitoring so you have to really use it for a while to get use to it.. When I purchased EA's Firium I put it in my plugins folder opened my Host and withing about 20 minutes was using it fairly well.. Its been uphill ever since..

C

[Lagrange]

Beardedone: You've had problems with Firium?

[Beardedone]

Bearbone: Yea i use it everyday to take spectral fingerprint from one sound and put it on another.. I also use it like EA's inspector to monitor average spectrum curve... trust me it s an extremely handy plug and worth the coin...

C

Thanks cdunkeroo. So what's your method?

[Lagrange]

Beardedone "depending on your host" "I'm using Adobe Audition (Cool Edit)" You simply open the plugin, source audio, Go to Match (Upper Left hand corner), Press Learn (under Source), It will Analyze the audio...

*Make sure that Auto Stop is on or it will keep learning

Once that is done I like the save the preset (so you can use it again at a later date on other audio if needed),

Then you just repeat the process on the Target side, load target audio, go to match tab, press play and learn on the Target tab, presto the eq automatically calculates the curve for you. You can then tweak, add subtract what you dont want smooth out and even scale the curve.

C

[Beardedone]

What I don't follow are the steps to apply the source curve to the target. Does the action of matching the target automatically apply the source curve?

[Lagrange]

beard: you have to anaylze or "learn" the sources curve 1st. This tells firium what to do to the target audio. Then it can apply that info accordingly...

C

[Beardedone]

Then it can apply that info accordingly...

I don't understand the steps to do this. I understand the learn operation in Firium for the source material. It is the application of the source match to my target that I am confused about.

[Space Boy]

GHAAK!! the problem I have with elevata is that they dont really fit any standard form of monitoring so you have to really use it for a while to get use to it..

In FreEq Boy it shouldn't take 20 minutes....

To apply EQ from audio Source B to audio Source A, take the following steps:

1. Use audio Source B as input to ‘FreEq Boy’.
2. Capture the EQ from Source B.
3. Save the EQ from Source B.
4. Reset.
5. Switch to audio Source A as input to ‘FreEq Boy’.
6. Capture the EQ from Source A.
7. Save the EQ from Source A.
8. Activate the ‘Merge’ button.
9. Load the EQ from Source B.
10. De-activate the ‘Merge’ button.
11. The result is achieved. The EQ curves are now merged.
12. Save out the resulting EQ curve.
13. Adjust gain as desired.

[rockstar_not]

GHAAK!! the problem I have with elevata is that they dont really fit any standard form of monitoring so you have to really use it for a while to get use to it..

In FreEq Boy it shouldn't take 20 minutes....

To apply EQ from audio Source B to audio Source A, take the following steps:

1. Use audio Source B as input to ‘FreEq Boy’.
2. Capture the EQ from Source B.
3. Save the EQ from Source B.
4. Reset.
5. Switch to audio Source A as input to ‘FreEq Boy’.
6. Capture the EQ from Source A.
7. Save the EQ from Source A.
8. Activate the ‘Merge’ button.
9. Load the EQ from Source B.
10. De-activate the ‘Merge’ button.
11. The result is achieved. The EQ curves are now merged.
12. Save out the resulting EQ curve.
13. Adjust gain as desired.

This looks like the most inexpensive way to accomplish this. I'll have to give the demo a try soon.

GoldWave doesn't work by the way.
-Scott