KVR Audio

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:22 am

I have to face it, I cant beat this...

Sex sells, does'nt it ?

morelia · Post by **morelia** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:33 am

You got sex out of her?

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:35 am

boogooloo1 wrote:
Vervil wrote:blahblahblah
Holy shit - we've uncovered a longer poster than Lunch! Can I have an audio cassette version??!!

The funny part that you didn't know until just now is that my response post (which I ended up deleting because I finally got to the last paragraph and realized he had misunderstood me all along) was at least as long again.

Rene: hard to say-- they might've blown it this time. Then again, they might not've. I certainly think the product LOSES credibility by having some fake-looking bint with a guitar she doesn't even know how to play. The sound will be the ultimate deciding factor, but that ad is not selling me on the product, that's for sure.

Greg

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:54 am

Sex sells, does'nt it ?

Let me add,

some audio demos probably would'nt...
or why are'nt there any ?

Its just like those tits, you cant touch them,
only fantasize, just like about AT2...

But wait untill that blond opens her mouth,
(no, not for what you might think.

)
than her great silicon, probably wount stop you from running as fast as you can.
(Ok, the next day...

)

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:03 am

Let's not forget that, fake or not, this chick is ultimatively ugly.
If this is meant to meet the taste of future AT users, I can imagine them to be a bunch of tasteless wannabe axe heroes with a healthy studio tan, wanking just about anything they can get their fishy hands on.

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:11 am

Oh, I didnt see her face...

gold · Post by **gold** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:45 am

Johnny Cherry · Post by **Johnny Cherry** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:23 am

I thought the advert was a bit tounge and cheek.

Relax guys although I do find it strange they've put no audio up.

Vervil · Post by **Vervil** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:14 am

Lunch Money wrote:
Yes, but then this means that amp simulators are better solution for people who don't have money or room, or equipment, not that amp sims are better or equal to amps they emulate. And reason for my post was my feeling like there is growing idea of sims coming up there, close to the real thing, based on ignorance, marketing hype and other things.
Hrm... you seem to have missed the point I was making, and I just spent the last 45 minutes typing a new response, when as it turns out, we agree all along.

You totally misinterpreted what I was trying to say, but that's the joy of internet. <laff>

Or you have misinterpreted my first post

Anyway, yes, joys of internet

I'd never say that a sim is better than a good amp, with a good speaker, in a good room, with the right technique. To be honest, I don't know how you would have thought that's what I was saying, unless you had pre-judged me as being that type of person, which I'm not.

I was not adressing people like you in my first post. As I have already said, hype abaut sims is there and when I go thru one of all those threads, there is a lot of people claming that they are getting great tracks sounding like real amps from their amp simulators. I was just pointing that this simply is not true, and talking about possible reasons. They can come close to the real thing, but not that close, even they would hear the difference easily if they could have miced amp in the same room.

I mean... surely you KNEW that the people in this thread are curious about AT2 because they don't necessarily have all 4 of those things, right? Otherwise, your post would have just been preaching to the converted. Most of us would love to have access to the real thing in a real studio instead.

Greg

They do not have all those things but sometimes there are other solution, for instance, I am currently about to build wooden sound isolated box that can handle amp an microphone so I record amp in my appartement.

And I must say that marketing for Amplitube 2 is very wrong in my opinion. I am not a potentional customer I guess, because I have to carry stuff around a lot, so something like POD is more practical than Laptop with software. But this chick, all those words about myriad choices in A2 I don't really need... Wouldn't best marketing be mp3's of boggie distorted guitar that sends shivers down my spine and slightly overdriven fender that makes my teeth hurt? I thought that it is all about sound of amp emulation, and one Squids post I read hear, telling about A2 sound was more convincing than complete presentation at IK site.

boogooloo1 wrote:Holy shit - we've uncovered a longer poster than Lunch! Can I have an audio cassette version??!

No problem, just tell me prior recording, do you want me to mic my voice or to use simulation

The funny part that you didn't know until just now is that my response post (which I ended up deleting because I finally got to the last paragraph and realized he had misunderstood me all along) was at least as long again.

We should never meet in real world

It would probably end as 4 hours of beer drinking and talking nonsense about guitar equipment.

Sorry for your deleted response, if that helps, english is not my first language, it is even harder for me to write long posts

Len · Post by **Len** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:53 am

The real question is - WHERE IS SQUIDS? No clarification on anything (upgrade pricing etc). And they expect us to stump up the cash for this overhyped piece of crap? (Well its a piece of crap based on their sound so far - talk about silly marketing technique).

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:00 pm

Yo homies. Reporting here for a sec before AES. Don't have time to read everyone's comments but skimmed a bit. The release version of AT2 is a the show. I am seeing it with all the latest stuff on line implemented for the first time now and it is just a phenominal plug-in. Holy CRAP! I love it. I think a lot of you will too.

Now, as far as the "chick" is concerned, first of all she is far from ugly. Swedish models are OKAY in my book. In fact, I love Sweden and need to visit more!

The boobs, okay, I can't really talk about them for political reasons (although if you meet me in person we can discuss over a beer

). It's all guitar player eye candy though and you have to remember that this is who a product like this is marketed to mainly. If you think it is tacky, well maybe it is but then that IS the guitar industry folks! Rock n Roll. Have a look at the GUITAR magazines some time and you will see what is in their world. "chicks". I think there's even porn stars in one of the latest guitar magazine buyer's guides. Have you ever seen the Dolphin Music ads? You know with the girl sucking the lolipop and the slogan "a good head for music"? Now THAT is really going far in my opinion. But, I just laugh and move on (because I am not so easily offended and know that this is the freakin'... okay, fine, "FUCKIN'"

music industry).

However, I do agree that this product rocks so hard that it doesn't need a bint standing next to it in a bikini for it to look good. In fact, I love the interface so much that I am not even looking at the girl!

(well... so he says). I do love the interface. It's miles better than AmpliTube 1 and so is the sound (better than all of the guitar amp sims and effect pedal sims on the market bar none). If you don't believe me then mosey on over to AES and hear for yourself! Seeing and hearing is believing. For fine craftsmanship such as this it IS worth the wait. I am so psyched to use this on my tunes I cannot even tell you! I am producing a pop/rock record right now and I NEEDED this BAD!!!!!

Will it be released this month? Well, keep in mind there are a lot of finalization things such as all of the formats on Mac and PC to be closed and even the packaging, international shipping etc. As far as it being done, well the proof is that it is at the show. So it is now a matter of those final details. Basically if not this month then I think next month. Either way, that's soon so put some money aside if you think you want it. There's also a lower introductory price for the launch like Miroslav Philharmonik. Oh and yes it is protected with a key. Sorry. Can't afford for it to be cracked. Take a look at all of the products that have (and are going to have) keys and if you want to use products like Cubase, Logic, Peak, ProTools and a lot of high end plug-ins then you have to put up with that necessary element. If you want to use something else, there are always alternatives. I personally don't let a key stop me because what is WAY more important is the software and gear I specifically want to use for my music. In my years I have put up with WAY more hassles than that to get what I want (ie. try moving a B3 or a CP70 some time... or anyone remember analog tape? A key is NOTHING!).

Bearded One, sorry dude. You know we love you. I am for the key. Don't hate me. Software has to be protected. You can't put this much value into a product and just leave it a sitting duck. I think you'll be seeing the larger part of the industry moving in this direction. If you support software being made with the kind of sound and features AT2 has then you can look at it as putting up with the minor hassle of using a key as your contribution to a good cause (which is supporting the "no cracks" philosophy). It is a shame there even needs to be any copy protection. But, it is also a shame you can't leave your doors unlocked anymore and that you can't get on a plane without taking off your belt and shoes.

Okay, enough talk about the key. It is the LAST thing anyone is going to think about as is the girl. Girl and key are not the issue here dude (big lebowski). It's the software and that Stomp I/O controller which is the seriously cool stuff to focus on. That Stomp I/O box acts as the key for that version (yes it is a different stand alone version). You know you don't even need a monitor to use it! You can just get one of this little mini macs and plug it in. It acts as an interface for your presets as well as an audio interface. SWEET!

Okay, friends (at least those that are friendly to me

) I am off to the show. My foot is asleep (needles!!!!) I look forward to meeting some of you. Don't be shy. Just say "Squids" and I'll know you're a KVRian.

MrTom · Post by **MrTom** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:16 pm

morelia wrote:You got sex out of her?

Yeah, the photo looks like somebody cut off an unknown face and warped it onto a well known body...

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:19 pm

So Squids, what about the lowest possible latency on a modest, modern PC running XP, using the Stomp I/O? This is absolutely crucial for me and there's stated nothing else but "ultra low latency" on the website. Of course that doesn't say anything.

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:20 pm

Len wrote:The real question is - WHERE IS SQUIDS? No clarification on anything (upgrade pricing etc). And they expect us to stump up the cash for this overhyped piece of crap? (Well its a piece of crap based on their sound so far - talk about silly marketing technique).

Piece of crap? That is rediculous. (and insulting too btw) But, if anyone wants to hold themselves back from this amazing piece of GOLD then that is their problem. I honestly mean that from the bottom of my Squid heart. You know why? Because, from my perspective, and I have been in and around the music industry for a long time, I have talked to a lot of guitar players and even just at the last NAMM show with an early version people were foaming at the mouth. They want this. So, why don't you? Who knows? But, all that Squids-hype is not just fluff. I would not go on and on about ANYTHING if I didn't believe in it. I just don't have it in me to do that. I am picky just like a lot of you. I want great quality and character in the sounds and effects I use. I wish I could personally have Aspen Pittman's old vintage amp collection (have some of them) but something like this gives a virtual emulation of that which comes closer than I have seen or heard so far. Ummm, that's to be appreciated if you ask me! Not spat on. But, to each his own.

As for upgrade pricing, I don't know. It's pretty good. The only thing I do know is that the full price is only $399 for the launch and then it goes up to $499 after a few months. I also think, being a serious high end plug-in, that even this is too cheap for what it is. Just the stomp box part alone is worth this price in my opinion. Of course, I am one of those suckers who pays $300 for a vintage pedal so maybe that's why.

Look, I have been on KVR how long? I know what a lot of you will say. It's all good. At the end of the day you'll either get it or you won't. Up to you just like any other software or hardware gear. I, for one, could not resist something like this. It is a staple piece to have in your studio for flexible guitar production (not to mention other instruments like keys!!!!! I use stomp boxes all the time. I used to have a clavinet with a wammy bar in the middle of it!). Also, regardless of what anyone around here says about AmpliTube 1 it did win 9 awards and sold thousands and thousands of units so I think you can bet 5 smiles that AmpliTube 2 is going to be a popular choice. It is quite an "update" (really a whole new program).

Okay, now I am out for real. Foot no longer asleep. Freezing though in this crappy hotel room. A lot of cool announcements at the show. I love trade shows.

Cya. (and be nice, I am not around to defend

)

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:21 pm

And fwiw, I don't think the model is looking "swedish" or whatever, she's just looking artificial in every aspect (and I'm not even talking about her boobs).
Some stereoptype wanking template for those that don't know any better...

Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!