Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!

[cptgone]

Does anyone here use dongles without any issues?

- haven't had any trouble with my SX2 dongle. However, according to H2O (who kinda cracked it), SX makes lots of calls to the dongle, reducing performance. Acc. to Steinberg, not during time critical operations. Who knows?

- once had a broken parallel port Cubase dongle (due to connecting a printer to it, something it's made for)
thanks to the shop where I bought it, I got a new one straight away - but that took me a train trip...

- as soon as you start using a laptop on the road, you'll come to hate 'em with a passion. Dongles suck.

[Sascha Franck]

Does anyone here use dongles without any issues?

To be honest: Yes. One for Logic, one for SX. No issues, never.
But I experienced issues when configuring a friends machine for Nuendo. Apparently the Asus mainboard didn't like the dongle or vice versa. A 5€ USB hub fixed that though, but I had to find out first.

What bothers me most is that I need additional software to be installed (at least for the SX dongle, the Logic one only requires a driver) and of course there's the fear of them being broken (which, to be honest, seems to happen rarely) or them getting lost (that'd be a nightmare and I'd have to use a cracked version of Logic then as you can't get a replacement anymore, not even as an authorized user).

As said, I don't think dongles per se are all that bad, especially if you need to use things on different machines. In that case I prefer them over challenge and response.

Still, dongles and C/R are plain bad for the user, no matter how you put it.

It seems that due to Steinbergs "success" of SX 3 taking quite a while to be cracked, other companies feel engaged to go the dongle route as well.
As mean as it may sound: From a users point of view we can only hope that in the future dongle protected products will be cracked faster, so companies will realize any sort of hardcore protection isn't really useful and all they're doing is wasting money on such efforts.
Sad but true.

[Watto]

I must say this thread is very active considering everybody thinks it will be a bust.

I reckon that just about sums up internet forums, and especially KVR...

...which is why I love it!

[Lunch Money]

Sorry to bring up the issue of the girl again-- but there ARE a few guitar magazines that have come out lately with girls on them. Both of the most recent ones I can think of were both "Buyer's Guides", for some strange reason... as if the pics of guitars themselves wouldn't have been enough?

Point being, though: I passed those ones right by, too. I went right for Guitar Player, which features only photos of guitarists and guitars. In fact, I felt acutely embarrassed that I was browsing the same shelf-- didn't want people to think I was looking at the stupid cheesecake magazine.

I didn't even pick up the Buyer's Guide because of the cover, though I'm usually interested in the content.

Greg

[Watto]

She's a MAN, baby!

[Beardedone]

To be honest: Yes. One for Logic, one for SX. No issues, never.
But I experienced issues when configuring a friends machine for Nuendo. Apparently the Asus mainboard didn't like the dongle or vice versa. A 5€ USB hub fixed that though, but I had to find out first.

What bothers me most is that I need additional software to be installed (at least for the SX dongle, the Logic one only requires a driver) and of course there's the fear of them being broken (which, to be honest, seems to happen rarely) or them getting lost (that'd be a nightmare and I'd have to use a cracked version of Logic then as you can't get a replacement anymore, not even as an authorized user).

As said, I don't think dongles per se are all that bad, especially if you need to use things on different machines. In that case I prefer them over challenge and response.

Still, dongles and C/R are plain bad for the user, no matter how you put it.

The drivers are what worry me most. I have zero tolerance for risk. I only have little time to devote to my music so a stable system is extremely important to me. In fact I am delaying which audio interface to replace my Aardvark DP 24/96 because of driver stability issues. I want a low latency card and obviously an RME would be the best but these are too much of a financial commitment right now. The alternatives are all problematic - e.g. EMU, Echo Audio and so on.

[Sascha Franck]

Do you need more than 2 I/Os, Gordon? If not, go for an Audiophile. Superb drivers.

[Aural Chaos]

If you are just talking about PCI or PCMCIA cards,then both M-Audio and Echo have totally solid drivers.As for USB or Firewire,maybe the situation is bit more iffy...

[Beardedone]

I want at least 6 balanced ins (at least four with phantom power and decent preamps) and 6 balanced outs and a headphone jack. I don't own a mixer. The Tascam FW1884 looks good for the money: A buddy of mine in Oregon has one and swaers by it but I am not clear about how low the the latency would be. It looks to me that the RME Fireface would be optimal. I may just have to wait.

[beltrom]

I want at least 6 balanced ins (at least four with phantom power and decent preamps) and 6 balanced outs and a headphone jack. I don't own a mixer. The Tascam FW1884 looks good for the money: A buddy of mine in Oregon has one and swaers by it but I am not clear about how low the the latency would be. It looks to me that the RME Fireface would be optimal. I may just have to wait.

Keep your eye on M-audio's site in the coming few weeks...

http://fr.forums.audiofanzine.com/appre ... 10000.html

[Midiworks]

However, I do agree that this product rocks so hard that it doesn't need a bint standing next to it in a bikini for it to look good. In fact, I love the interface so much that I am not even looking at the girl! (well... so he says). I do love the interface. It's miles better than AmpliTube 1 and so is the sound (better than all of the guitar amp sims and effect pedal sims on the market bar none). If you don't believe me then mosey on over to AES and hear for yourself! Seeing and hearing is believing. For fine craftsmanship such as this it IS worth the wait. I am so psyched to use this on my tunes I cannot even tell you! I am producing a pop/rock record right now and I NEEDED this BAD!!!!!

Didnt you hyped before, that you already have a beta. and how great it is ?

You can just get one of this little mini macs and plug it in. It acts as an interface for your presets as well as an audio interface. SWEET!

Very sweet, just like sitting in front of your
Pod, VAmp or whatever and guess what,
you dont even need a Mini Mac !

I simply feel like companys AND people are loosing the plug price wise.

[Beardedone]

Beardedone wrote:
I want at least 6 balanced ins (at least four with phantom power and decent preamps) and 6 balanced outs and a headphone jack. I don't own a mixer. The Tascam FW1884 looks good for the money: A buddy of mine in Oregon has one and swaers by it but I am not clear about how low the the latency would be. It looks to me that the RME Fireface would be optimal. I may just have to wait.


Keep your eye on M-audio's site in the coming few weeks...

I haven't heard any audio interfaces from M-Audio that impressed overly - OK but no where near as exciting as the RME interfaces. I aways try to audition before I buy. Fortunately my local shop is pretty good about keeping a broad range of new stock..

[Hink]

Oh and yes it is protected with a key. Sorry. Can't afford for it to be cracked.

It is pointless to point out that it WILL be cracked anyway?!
I guess everyone here has heard the "penalizes legal users...." argument enough already,but it's kind of sad to hear people in the industry clinging to ideas like this.

but it isn't exactly the industry's fault (though I may not agree with their methods)...look at cds...how much crap you gotta go through to open it...tamper proof things on other things...it's not uncommon and it's because some people just do not care about doing what's right...yes it's absolutely true that the legit users suffer...on the road the good drivers pay more because of the poor drivers...in stores part of the mark up is because of theft...it sux.

[Midiworks]

Just found this for 159 Euro !
look at the IO's !



Universal foot controler 149 Euro...
Very expensive in relation.



ZERO cpu, lets not forget that !!!

Total 308 Euro or $374
(including the foot controler)


As a reminder for you:

The only thing I do know is that the full price is only $399 for the launch and then it goes up to $499 after a few months.

I also think, being a serious high end plug-in, that even this is too cheap for what it is.

Lets not forget the price is WITHOUT the controler, like I understood it...



Line-6 Pod XT-Live 485 Euros


Pod II 187 Euro


"ALL" of those hardwares have free software editors btw.

ZERO cpu, lets not forget that please !!!



So, is AT2 "even too cheep", like Squids say,
or you rather feel by now, that its a ?

And now folks, please get real AND stay realistic.

[Hink]

"ALL" of those hardwares have free software editors btw.

ZERO cpu, lets not forget that please !!!

you know everytime I make that statement someone gives me grief..but I agree. I already ask my pc to do enough. The sounds I want are not exactly "hi-tech", in fact it's very basic circuts for the vintage tube amps. So why worry about keeping it pure digital on the way in..why not go from a pod to the mixer/card with (god forbid) analog cables...will it be that much worse...of course there are many who use a miced amp and that's analog ...so why should I waste cpu on guitar processing?