Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!

[mondo tormento]

When IK were working on that fancy GUI NI were working on actual amplifier simulation.

Why do you say that

Have you A/B AT2&GR2 to come to that conclusion or do you have any other facts to back it up or do you just want to bash IK

Seems to be a lot of opinions of a product that hasn't even been released yet.....


EF

No, and no. I was being sarcastic, you see IK announced AT2 last january yet haven't been able to give us one audio example. Now that's weak, NI on the other hand announced GR2 today with audio examples.

There's so much hype around IK's products it's almost laughable.

[cptgone]

Kewl, Guitar Rig 2 ( from now on referred to as GR2 ) supports Bass as well, and it sounds not bad at all for bass.

Cool!

[Watto]

Kewl, Guitar Rig 2 ( from now on referred to as GR2 ) supports Bass as well, and it sounds not bad at all for bass.

Cool!

Are you agreeing, or correcting his spelling...?

[fritzman]

I don't like the look of the GR2 floor thingy.

Please don't tell me you prefer the AT2 thing...

Hehe,

no Sascha. Shall I really say what I think about the looks of this IK eh, stompy???
"Alright then hehehehe ... Where are my bubble gums? Ah, is this mic on? Grinnnn!!! Hello aMTeVeeh, besides of all my fans here on aMTeVeeh I want to thank my little daughter who helped me designing my new teenie award 2005 winning stompy pompy."

COME ON ... it's lots of lilla on there!!! The whole thing looks like the BAD eighties. No matter how hip the eighties might be ATM, I don't like it and I didn't like it back then.

First the porn, then this buah looking floor pedal. They really want me as a customer. Ah, maybe I'm not enough of a typical rock guitarist. They all want teenie violett on their floor pedal. But hey, only the sound counts, right? So where are the audios please?


Best wishes, FRitz

[Sascha Franck]

Is that why Sascha doesn't like it? I think the GR2 looks much cooler, but the IK has a lot more buttons... I'm not a guitarist, so it'd be interesting to know why Sascha doesn't like the IK.

I simply don't like cheap-ish plastic-alike looking things. The IK thing is looking so 80-ish - when every guitar player wanted to have those ART MIDI controllers. They simply looked like shit. Cheap shit that is.

From a functional point of view, the IK controller seems to be miles ahead, with its more informative display (come on, NI, at least a patch name display should be possible...), some programming (?) buttons, the larger amount of possible connections, etc.

Wouldn't help in case it'd be breaking as fast as it seems to look like.

Anyways, for me it'd be all about the quality of the onboard audio interface and the supplied drivers.
Without low latency operation (at least in standalone mode) they can all just keep their stuff...
IMO it might make sense to deliver an alternative PCMCIA solution.

[Sascha Franck]

COME ON ... it's lots of lilla on there!!! The whole thing looks like the BAD eighties.

HEHE!
See my last post about the 80-ish look and ART MIDI pedals, which I posted at the same time

[A3ntar]

Hey, maybe the idea is to sell the basic ugly StompIO package, and then sell upgrade "decorations" to remove the lila colour and replace it with some silver/gray/black, etc...

[Watto]

Yes, the guitarist POV seems quite clear...



Thanks for the clarification, Sascha - clear as always!

[seamoss]

let me see.....


buy amplitube 2.0


or



buy a second hand fender twin




not a tough choice for me

So which is it? you cant leave me hanging.

oh.

I would never spend $500 on an amp sim. I already have a twin though i was just thinking about how $500 would be better spent. a $500 investment on a fender twin would be much better than amplitube 2.0 in my opinion. what would amplitube be worth in three years? $30? that's typical with any software...I guess. $500 is ridiculous on an amp sim IMO


I am not big on amp sims. I think they are cool for FX and laying down rough tracks but I always like they way a tube amp mic'd up sounds much more. i know, i know, what a typical thing to say, eh? I also think that amp sims are way too f**king noisy and the feedback (if you can call it that) is really lame.

a lot of people talk about the distortion on amp sims sounding bad but for me it's actually the clean tone even more so. there is a certain sound that tubes have that IMO hasn't been met with amp sims.

I remember when I was about 15 years old, I had a solid state Marshall combo amp and I could never figure out why my tone sounded so much different than those people I listened to. Eventually, I bought a tube amp and I finally had the sound i had been looking for. for me, there CLEARLY was a difference. obviously tone has more to do than just the amp but I do think that an amp plays big part of the overall sound.

..and I am not one of those people that always say the vintage hardware is better/warmer than software. I play a few analog synths (prophet 5, MS-20) with my band as well as many vsti (g-media stuff of course )...and i think the virtuals are there. minimonsta & odddity are just as fat as any of my analog synths.

i don't know......different strokes for different folks I suppose.

i just think there is something magical about those glass tubes.

[Funkybot]

Let me say I heard a bit of AT2 today at AES and even with all the background noise of a convention it really sounds lightyears ahead of AT1. This is definately a huge workover/redesign and in a very positive way. Unfortunately it was still a beta version (the drive knob on the AC30 didn't function for instance), so there's a lot that I couldn't hear, but the JCM800 for instance just sounded really fcuking good through the Les Paul it was being played with. There may have been some high end fizz going on there with the high gain models (no more than the PodXT though), but again, it was a really shitty listening environment, and the USB interface they were plugged into seemed like less than the ideal instrument input. On the positive side, even really distorted the leads the guy was playing with the Marshall sustained like a bitch, and where nice and creamy without sounding pinched, overly compressed, or distant (the usual problems with modelers at high gain settings). Also, the Fender Blackface model sounded nice and dynamic with the right frequency range (i.e. the low end and top end felt like they were just where they should have been, and I own one) but in all fairness I only heard it with a lot of effects on. Oh and the effects sound very good, the Octaver was spot on, as was the Tube Screamer and the Phase Shifter.

The floorboard was not at AES. The IK rep said it wouldn't be ready for release until at least the early part of next year, but that Amplitube 2 itself would be out next month. Also, it will definately use the same dongle that all the new IK products are using, which isn't great news at all for most, but it really sounds so good that major instability issues aside (assuming this does not cause any of these) it could be worth dealing with a dongle. Apparently Squids (who's really just as nice in person as on the boards, if not more so), may have an idea up his sleeves to get people to try out the demo and get hooked on AT2 even with the dongle.

All in all, I'm a lot more excited about this than I had been, but I'd still really need to demo it myself, and then decide if it's worth dealing with the dongle to me (which it very well may be). Anyway, it's a hell of a lot more exciting than Line 6's Toneport, which they confirmed would only work as a front end for the immediate time being (though they did leave the door open to allowing it to post-process sounds, but I'm not holding my breath).

[putte]

thanks funkybot! ..

[A3ntar]

Thanks Funkybot for your feedback...You rock!

Unfortunately it was still a beta version (the drive knob on the AC30 didn't function for instance), so there's a lot that I couldn't hear

Hmmm...Squids said that they are demoing the release version. "The release version of AT2 is a the show. I am seeing it with all the latest stuff on line implemented for the first time now and it is just a phenominal plug-in. Holy CRAP! I love it. I think a lot of you will too."

Apparently Squids (who's really just as nice in person as on the boards, if not more so), may have an idea up his sleeves to get people to try out the demo and get hooked on AT2 even with the dongle.

LOL, how did you know it was Squids, did you call out his nickname?
Btw, what is the certainty that there will be a demo version of AT2 out? There has been no demo version of Philharmonik as far as I know. I thought it was related to the dongle. Maybe they will convince people to buy a dongle to try the demo out, and if people like it they will credit them the dongle price?

All in all, I'm a lot more excited about this than I had been, but I'd still really need to demo it myself, and then decide if it's worth dealing with the dongle to me (which it very well may be). Anyway, it's a hell of a lot more exciting than Line 6's Toneport, which they confirmed would only work as a front end for the immediate time being (though they did leave the door open to allowing it to post-process sounds, but I'm not holding my breath).

The toneport will be a "front end" for what? Did line6 have any other new offerings beside the TonePort?


Thanks.

[Funkybot]

Hmmm...Squids said that they are demoing the release version. "The release version of AT2 is a the show. I am seeing it with all the latest stuff on line implemented for the first time now and it is just a phenominal plug-in. Holy CRAP! I love it. I think a lot of you will too."

I actually asked Squids about this, and he was indeed under the impression they'd be demoing the release version, but it was sadly just a pre-release there. He seemed a little bummed about it (you know how excited Squids gets to show off new products).

LOL, how did you know it was Squids, did you call out his nickname?
Btw, what is the certainty that there will be a demo version of AT2 out? There has been no demo version of Philharmonik as far as I know. I thought it was related to the dongle. Maybe they will convince people to buy a dongle to try the demo out, and if people like it they will credit them the dongle price?

Name tags are great things!

The toneport will be a "front end" for what? Did line6 have any other new offerings beside the TonePort?

Toneport will basically work like Guitarport only it will also do bass and pre-amp sounds. So basically it's a pre-amp and instrument input with modeling to get a particular sound as you record. The modeling will be done via your CPU, and as a front end I mean that you can't go back in and change the sound after it's been recorded or use it as a plug-in. So basically what you get in the front end (i.e. when you're actually recording the sound you've dialed in), is all your limited to, and you couldn't for instance use it as a plug-in or to reamp.

[AndrewSimon]

Wow 5 hours and no one posted here!
What? no more bitching?

Don't worry Amplitube2 will be great, you'll see.
And if not there are a bunch of other sims out there.

[A3ntar]

Wow 5 hours and no one posted here!
What? no more bitching?

LOL. What surprises me is that we don't have lots of feedback from people that went to the EAS about AT2 and GR2. At least with GR2 we have sound samples.

Maybe people are more inclined to go to the EAS on Saturday.