How to solve this stuffed nose vocal

[pluginnow]

Hello,

I'm working in this vocal track, and I'm applying redunoise to get it much cleaner (it's a little noisy).

The problem is that I get absolutely lovely - no noise - vocal, but it sounds like the singer has a stuffed nose - unnatural.

I tried to correct 1-2 KHz bands, and the problem went away, but it then sounds muffled.

Should I go with a warmer effect or what?

Thanks in advance!

[deaneager]

Unfortunately for me, I always sound like I've got a stuffy nose anyway. I have a brilliant work-around though, works every time...

I get someone else to sing!

[jouni]

less noise reducation, proper EQ, compressor and exciter. and as last resort, re-record the vocals so that you have better material to start with.

[pluginnow]

No, before the redunoise it doesn't sound like the singer has stuffy nose. I just need to correct that sound.

[pluginnow]

Still need help

[Hink]

is the noise reduced parts all you have? Or did you save a copy of the vocals before noise reduction? You might want to try using something like voxformer first then using noise reduction. Try to be careful when reducing the noise. Also make sure all the noise reduction is really needed...when it's in the mix do you hear it or does it fade into the mix? I love voxengo, but I use adobe auditions noise reduction, which imo is quite good...

[pluginnow]

The voice has something like grain in it. I'm taking the minimum amount of noise as possible.

I just need a fuller voice and crispy voice because no eq applyed solves it. Warmifier doensn't seem to help.

[Hink]

have you tried voxformer? It's eq and presence sections could well be what you're looking for...

[Trojan Badger]

Daft question, but what kind of mic were you using, and how close was the singer to it? I was always taught the best way to avoid stuffy nose was to sing about 12-18 inches away from the mic...

[pluginnow]

Actually this appends every time I perform a noise clean (also with professional recordings). Even with X-noise there's this sound of stuffy nose as well has on other instruments too.

Any ideas?

[Rev. Jem]

I hope that this link helps:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec04/a ... 1204-4.htm

[duncanparsons]

I have had this - do a fine vocal take, then noise remove, and it goes stuffy (I use the noise remover in audacity, on it's weakest setting).

I have found that using a multiband (like T-Sledge) better than a simple compressor (I think the noise remover does odd things up around 8-10kHz, which make the compressor behave in an odd way).

I'm not very good at spending money on this kind of thing, so only use freeware, but a carefully tweaked chain of noise-remove->multiband->EQ (I found gentle wide Q boost around 5k helped more than 1-2k)

HTH
DSP

[monopoli]

I really wonder why noone has remarked this yet but; if your recording is so noisy you have to apply redunoise you're really doing something wrong at the source.
What kind of mic did you use ? And do you maybe have an mp3 of the recording so we can hear it ?

[Lagrange]

pluginnow this is one of those touch issues that really is hard to fix (especially for free).. I've gotten success with noise vocals by using frequency domain filtering.. also anaylizing the noise taking a sample of it and reducing directly.. if you can try it in stages with a higher release then repeat the process until you reach the desired effect.. I use Audition 1.5 frequency domain ($).. You can try audacity..

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

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[duncanparsons]

I really wonder why noone has remarked this yet but; if your recording is so noisy you have to apply redunoise you're really doing something wrong at the source.
What kind of mic did you use ? And do you maybe have an mp3 of the recording so we can hear it ?

For me it comes from using the sound card in my laptop. I do have an external USB box as well, but don't always have it around. My internal card picks up the low level noise of the whole machine, which is a pain, but I've learnt how to get the best from it all

DSP