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Squids · Post by **Squids** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:34 am

A3ntar wrote:
they ARE the Stones though
LOL, we got it that you really like them. Myself, being of the younger generation, I do not give them much attention. To me, their are a bunch of really old "dudes" where the main singer has fat lips and elastic hips ( it shows that he didn't have a hip replacement surgery...Yet ).

I never said I was a Stones fan myself. I do like them but even more than that I respect who they are. Chances are there are bands you may like who were influenced by them or influenced by bands that were influenced by them (and somehow it will all link to Kevin Bacon as well

). Again, the fact that they are still playing arenas filled with people for how many years speaks for itself. I don't think in the realm of rock n roll I have to defend the freakin' Rolling Stones!!!!

But, like I said, it is not that I am saying "hey they use it, so should you". A Stones fan might think that on their own perhaps. It is just a point that it is used professionally and at that level which, despite whether you give personal attention to them, they still grab the attention of quite a few people and have their place (that is undeniable) in the territory of rock music. Or not?

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:36 am

It is impressive, no doubt! And come on, everyone should know that the Stones defined Rock&Roll for so many, be they musicians or fans.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:37 am

Lunch Money wrote:Well, he's definitely a much better guitarist than me. That's not in question.

On the other hand, a really good guitarist can play in the craziest of situations. Suddenly your monitor fkucs off on you, and you still keep playing. Your girlfriend nags you from the other room, which is sort of distracting, but you keep playing....

Honestly. 5ms? You people are nuts. I can only conclude that you're talking about 10ms... or that you're completely loopy. 5ms will barely cause phase errors (when playing back... it won't be an issue while tracking), never mind an audible delay.

Greg

greg I disagree, I've said several times that I would stay with hardware just for this reason....yeah okay, you get 5ms latency when you're just plugged in, but once you start making your computer work, how often will you have to increase the buffer length to stop the clicks? I can't say what Sascha's experience has been with his set-up, I dont know if he's just imagining it, but I do know analog into a good card is gonna be hardly noticable, but one who isn't comfortable with his set-up, ie a small amount of latency could work against themselves. That's why I will stay with hardware, my computer does enough and I don't have to worry about it (and I can take it to jam nights)...

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:40 am

Chances are there are bands you may like who were influenced by them or influenced by bands that were influenced by them

my first guitar influence was Mick Taylor, and he was still in the Stones...stop making me feel old

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:40 am

LOL! I was just pulling your legs Squids

I wonder if Santana, SRV or Bluesy Gary Moore got inspired by the Stones. I tend to think not, being more blues then R&R but one never really knows...The Stones is a pretty old group. I know my father liked them very very much.

But amidst all that lateny, boobs and now Stones confusion, one thing remains true: Until I try that demo of AT2 myself, I will get noooo....satisfactiooon!

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:42 am

my first guitar influence was Mick Taylor, and he was still in the Stones...stop making me feel old

Let me guess: "Get your Ya Yas Out" right?

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:45 am

"Get your Ya Yas Out"
Is that what they used to call them back in the 40's?

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:46 am

A3ntar wrote:LOL! I was just pulling your legs Squids

I wonder if Sanata, SRV or Gary Moore got inspired by the Stones. I tend to think not, being more blues then R&R but one never really knows...The stone is a pretty old group. I know my father liked them very very much.

But amidst all that lateny, boobs and now Stones confusion, one thing remains true: Until I try that demo of AT2 myself, I will get noooo....satisfactiooon!

dude I got Gary Moore's first album "Grinding Stone"...I believe that was 71, though he likely would of had some influence from the Stones, he quickly became a contemporary...

BTW the Stones want Micheal Schenker when Taylor left, but brother Rudolf convinced him their lifestyle would destroy him...

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:49 am

fritzman wrote: Most of the time I overlooked your organ monkey style and was amused by it sometimes. But this goes too far for me. Way to far.
I won't buy AT2, because of the poor ads and because of your poor reaction to this issue.

Regards, FRitz

Organ Monkey? As in Hurdy Gurdy? I love that instrument. Thanks!

Hey man. Do what ever is best for you and your music! Who knows? Maybe you prefered another piece of software all along anyway.

There's no way for me to know where you are coming from. But, to each his own. It doesn't really matter. I only expect people to buy what they want for themselves.

My personal opinion about anyone who would let the STYLE of how someone (I am not even the creator of this plug btw) speaks about a product or the style of an ad affect whether they buy it or not has their priorities messed up. But, of course, I am entitled to MY opinion too and that is what I think. Still, I also think if you don't get it then it is your loss not mine.

Checked out your site http://www.fritzmetal.de/ btw. I just wanted to get an idea of who was talking to me (even if maybe they are insulting me) and what their music sounded like. It's always interesting to get that perspective so thanks for sharing it publicly.

I wish you all the best regardless. Good luck!

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:50 am

dude I got Gary Moore's first album "Grinding Stone"...I believe that was 71, though he likely would of had some influence from the Stones, he quickly became a contemporary...

You're absolutly right, that is why I adjusted my post just a few minutes after I submit it to reflect the "Bluesy" Gary Moore. But I guess, you cannot really seperate an arist in two section and say this one is influenced by the stones, this isn't.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:53 am

Beardedone wrote:
my first guitar influence was Mick Taylor, and he was still in the Stones...stop making me feel old

Let me guess: "Get your Ya Yas Out" right?

omg I wore that out, you bet...I figure in one form or another I have had 25-50 copies of that album...also of course gimme shelter...some of the live bootlegs of that were amazing..I also love the song "Dance Little Sister"...

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:55 am

Hink: No doubt that adding increasingly more effects will eventually either cripple your system (pops and clicks) or cause you to increase your latency. I'm just talking about 5ms of working pop-free latency, pure and simple. No "what ifs".

Greg

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:56 am

Cool - I spent many hours getting Midnight Rambler down tight. - I surprised my self recently by playing through the whole song on my acoustic without cramping up.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:56 am

A3ntar wrote:
dude I got Gary Moore's first album "Grinding Stone"...I believe that was 71, though he likely would of had some influence from the Stones, he quickly became a contemporary...
You're absolutly right, that is why I adjusted my post just a few minutes after I submit it to reflect the "Bluesy" Gary Moore. But I guess, you cannot really seperate an arist in two section and say this one is influenced by the stones, this isn't.

no I'm wrong that album was 73, I also have skid row 48 hours on vinyl...that's from 70....it's good to see one Moore fan here

You know that his b-day is 4/4 right? I always thought that was funny....

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:59 am

A3ntar wrote:LOL! I was just pulling your legs Squids

I wonder if Santana, SRV or Bluesy Gary Moore got inspired by the Stones. I tend to think not, being more blues then R&R but one never really knows...The Stones is a pretty old group. I know my father liked them very very much.

But amidst all that lateny, boobs and now Stones confusion, one thing remains true: Until I try that demo of AT2 myself, I will get noooo....satisfactiooon!

You'd be surprised. But, also so many artists are influenced by Bob Dylan. It took me a while to appreciate Dylan and a lot of people don't get it. But then they like Tom Petty or something and people like Bearded One and I just roll our eyes. Or even if someone says they like Cold Play but not U2 or U2 but not BB King or Elvis... it's about deeper appreciation of rock roots. I also hear some young kids say they don't like The Beatles. But, if the song Helter Skelter didn't exist who knows if there would even have been a Led Zeppelin and then Heavy Metal and then ___________ thrash grunge band whatever...

It's good to know this stuff even if you appreciate more the musicians who were influenced than the influencial musicians. It is as useful knowledge as the knowledge about the gear and software we discuss on this forum (maybe even more useful in many respects).

Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!