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Improv · Post by **Improv** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:54 am

IIRs wrote:
AD80 wrote:
willowhaus wrote:
P.S. - If you can't figure out how to use your computer running KDE or Gnome these days, you probably shouldn't be running a DAW. ;^P
I've been running a DAW very succesfully for years and I have no idea what the hell KDE or Gnome is.
%$£( *&)&& "% ^&*G*& £%"% ^^!()*^ *(£^ %%^) &*!

Dam rights! With bells on it even!

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:24 am

Bah! Damn you Linux nerds with your secret codes and secret handshakes. Long live Windows!!

Improv · Post by **Improv** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:41 am

AD80 wrote:Bah! Damn you Linux nerds with your secret codes and secret handshakes. Long live Windows!!

I don't give a damn if the OS is Playstation or Nintendo as long as I can run my music software of choice. Whatever works.

Right now if I was setting up an ISP, I'd use Linux. For a DAW, I'd use Windows or Mac. For major motion picture animation and special effects/rendering/ high end graphics programs like Maya, I'd use Linux.

Use the tool that does the job. Whatever works.

james0tucson · Post by **james0tucson** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:44 am

Improv wrote:
AD80 wrote:Bah! Damn you Linux nerds with your secret codes and secret handshakes. Long live Windows!!
I don't give a damn if the OS is Playstation or Nintendo as long as I can run my music software of choice. Whatever works.

Right now if I was setting up an ISP, I'd use Linux. For a DAW, I'd use Windows or Mac. Use the tool that does the job.

Ah, but if you were starting a project from scratch, say a software+hardware project, what platform would you use?

Improv · Post by **Improv** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:52 am

james0tucson wrote: Ah, but if you were starting a project from scratch, say a software+hardware project, what platform would you use?

Which would you use-a screwdriver or a hammer? It depends which tool you need to get the job done

Re-read my post: I said whatever works.

What kind of project?

Right now, Linux as a DAW is not quite ready for prime time. If I owned Weta Workshop and was doing Lord of the Rings, I'd use mostly Linux, especially for the graphics rendering farms.

Sorry, I'm not swallowing the bait-I'm OS agnostic.

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:14 am

Improv wrote:

Use the tool that does the job. Whatever works.

In that case, LONG LIVE WINDOWS. It has every tool I could ever need or want. I'm so happy making music with Tracktion on Windows I should be in some type of info-mercial talking about it.

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:15 am

james0tucson wrote:
Ah, but if you were starting a project from scratch, say a software+hardware project, what platform would you use?

Windows.

james0tucson · Post by **james0tucson** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:32 am

AD80 wrote:
james0tucson wrote:
Ah, but if you were starting a project from scratch, say a software+hardware project, what platform would you use?
Windows.

Fair enough. However, licensing costs could eliminate your bottom line. A friend of mine has recently launched an industrial product based on an ARM device running a customized version of Linux. Nobody needs to be paid for the software, and the choice of platform was his to make.

If I were developing a device today, I'd want to be in control of it. The Windows licensing terms would stop me cold, if there were no other choice.

RoyNoahJones · Post by **RoyNoahJones** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:40 am

It took years to get decent apps on windows/pc.
/me votes for asio2 & protools for PDA

AD80 · Post by **AD80** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:12 am

james0tucson wrote:
Fair enough. However, licensing costs could eliminate your bottom line. A friend of mine has recently launched an industrial product based on an ARM device running a customized version of Linux. Nobody needs to be paid for the software, and the choice of platform was his to make.

If I were developing a device today, I'd want to be in control of it. The Windows licensing terms would stop me cold, if there were no other choice.

If I was launching space shuttles from my house, I'd probably use Linux. But other than that...

GaryG · Post by **GaryG** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:16 am

get Tracktion on Linux then Linux on a PSP and your sorted. geezer.

Klawzz · Post by **Klawzz** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:16 am

Radek wrote:
chico.co.uk wrote:Ok, quick question - just been reading about the Studio to Go bootable cd, and on the tour page they show them using the B4 vst in Rosegarden. How does that work then? Does that mean windows vsts can be used under linux? Is that done through Wine, or how does that play ball?
I don't know a strict technical answer but yes. It's possible and it's using wine for some things.

I had some success running energy-xt under Linux and plugins with it.

Imho if pushed hard it could be bearable actually to use Linux as vst host.

Hello !

I purchased Studio To Go v1.5 (so this also may answer the question about buying Linux software ...

). The advantage I saw in it was having Linux sound apps working "out of the box".
I like to tweak a Linux box, but only to some extent

The VSTs work through Wine ; up to now, support is only partial (a list of working VST is provided here = http://www.djcj.org/LAU/ladspavst/ )
Hopefully, support will improve as work on Wine is being carried out.

Such initiatives show that, for making sound on Linux, you do not have to go through a hassle and technical nightware. A problem which does remain is that you would have to use new software (Rosegarden, Ardour...) and be faced with a steep learning curve. Having T2 (or XT) ported to that platform would ease the switch...

Peace.

Klawzz · Post by **Klawzz** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:33 am

I agree that, before choosing an OS, you should choose the applications you want to run on it.

If you want a capable environment open for experimentation and customization, Linux is fine.

If you want to use a lot of VST, or your favorite Mac/Windows sequencer, better to stick to Mac/Windows. For the time being

Father Ham · Post by **Father Ham** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:44 pm

Lunch Money wrote:That's it. Installing a base distribution isn't a problem. It's updating and adding new programs that starts to get annoying.

The Redhat way of doing the RPM thingy was showing promise, but it failed to deliver.

It's the opposite in my situation. It was a pain installing the base distribution... but updating and adding new programs is super easy.

I use Gentoo, which has Portage, a package manager that makes Red Hat's RPM stuff look like a joke. Gentoo doesn't have a graphical installer, so you must type everything out by hand. But after it is installed you have easy access to over 10,000 ebuilds.

Want to install SooperLooper? (It is really fun!) Just type, 'emerge sooperlooper'. It auto-downloads the source, compiles it, and magically adds a pretty icon to your Gnome bar. I used to think Windows was awesome for easily installing things... but in Windows you have to open the browser, find the exe, download it, open it, click, select yes, click, click, wait, click, and sometimes restart your computer. None of that under Linux.

Debian's apt-get is okay, but from what I hear the best package management systems are FreeBSD Ports, Gentoo Portage, and ArchLinux Pacman.

Radek · Post by **Radek** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:59 pm

Do you remember the w9x times? How great were those with big latencies, shaky task manager and W9x's great blue screens of freezes. Yet people were using this abomination of operating system for vsts...

Linux isn't that complicated internally as every modern os is. Only the windows platform got far more support from third parties and it shows.

It must take a time but one day Linux's daw will not be something rare to see.

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