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soulata wrote:
Ian B wrote:A semi serious question, how do you teach improvisation? :?
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Well, I teach jazz improvisation. Here are some points:

a) there are some rules (that can and will be broken or bent) in jazz improvisation

b) it's like teaching a language I suppose

c) everybody can improvise to some extent

d) nobody needs improv classes but a good teacher can help (I'm sure anybody can learn through listening and copying and whatnot, what I do is helping them do it)

more questions? (really, I'm not joking)

k
No, it just struck me as odd 'teaching' improviation. I know little of music theory, but I thought once the basic rules of improvisation were learnt, improvisation by it's very nature couldn't be taught per se.
haydxn wrote:it's fair enough to teach improvisation! that's a silly question. you have to know scales to be able to bang out a good improvised line, so scales are a must. also, it's good to have a few tricks and tips about it to be any good.. for instance, a big wank of notes without space is generally bad, so you'll want to at least know that. the melodies that come out will be new, but you can't improvise well if you're not any good, and having a teacher can definitely help in that respect.
I assumed (wrongly it seems :oops: ) that if people were advanced enough musically to play improvised, there would be little they could actually be taught about doing so.

I'll creep back into a corner with my guitar and the dozen or so chords I've mastered now...........
Last edited by Ian B on Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Ian B wrote:I assumed (wrongly it seems :oops: ) that if people were advanced enough musically to play improvised, there would be little they could actually be taught about doing so.
Well, the usual primary music schools (whatever you call them) don't teach you much about anything but classical music. I teach part-time in one of them and it's a pretty sad sight. The teachers and pupils rarely listen to music and what it should sound like, they just go over the repertoire (scales, etudes, ...) and that's it.

For those wanting more they need to hire a private teacher or go to music high school, which is much better in this respect, but the entrance exams are relatively hard. And there's my other part-time job.

questions?

k

oh, the books....

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my original joke about jazzbooks..ie jazz mags...seems to have been overlooked :hihi:

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soulata wrote:questions?
No more ?'s........I'm out of my depth on this one :oops:
RIP Black Tom and Beckett. They weren't just cats, they were MY cats, the best cats ever.

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to their credit - book sent.

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