Bundled Plug-ins

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Incredibly stupid question below.

I've just started using T2 on Mac and I can't seem to locate all the bundled software listed on this page:

http://mackie.com/products/tracktion2/t2_plugins.html

My Filters list has a few of the basic DSP filters and the MDA plug-ins, but stuff like Linplug RM IV is nowhere to be found.

I followed the installation instructions, by the way.

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Did you buy the boxed version, or did you use the T1 to T2 upgrade deal?

The upgrade doesn;t include the extras. If you bought T2, your box should contain three CDs, two of which are RMIV and the IK stuff. You'll need to install them separately.
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It came with the Firewire card for my Mackie Onyx. I guess it doesn't include the plug-ins. :-(

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I'm fairly sure that's the case unfortunately.
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Way to be deceptive, Mackie.

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I don't know anything about the included version, but if it's different than the retail box, even just in terms of plug-ins, surely a designation like "SE" or "LE" would be helpful in differentiating?

That's what you get when you get Live or Cubase bundled with certain hardware.

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They sure make it sound like it has everything:

http://mackie.com/products/onyxfirewire/index.html

The CD-ROM included with the Onyx FireWire card contains all the necessary drivers for PC, plus a software Control Panel. On a Mac, just plug in the FireWire cable and Onyx mixers will immediately show up as a 14x2 or 18x2 Core Audio device. (How's that for plug-and-play!)

The CD also contains the full version of Tracktion, our easy to-use multitrack recording and sequencing software for the PC and Mac. (And now, the Onyx FireWire Card includes a free upgrade to Tracktion 2.) So an Onyx mixer, a FireWire card, and a computer is literally all you need to start recording and producing music.

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I can see both sides of it. In all fairness to Mackie, you DO have the full version of Tracktion. Everything else is quite clearly not an integrated part of Tracktion itself.

But in fairness to you, I can see why you'd feel a bit jilted. I'm not sure how it could be worded to make sure everyone is clear on it without it sounding awkward and weird:

"Onyx includes the full version of Tracktion and a free upgrade to Tracktion 2, but does not include all of the software that you would get in the retail box" is kind of odd....

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A footnote that says "Bundled plug-ins not included" would suffice.

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I have a feeling there was clearer definitions of 'full' some time back. It isn't very clear now though.

:?
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Ah, you know what? I'm an idiot who can't read. The CD that came with my FireWire card has T1.6. I need to download the upgrade

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Yet, not. You WILL get the Mackie Dynamics suite, which is well worth the cost of admission. However, Sampletank2SE, RMIV, and Amplitube LE are still not part of that package. ;)

I agree that the definition of 'full' has changed with development. A footnote would be handy enough, for sure.

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You will probably want' to go out and buy the full version of Amplitube, its just that good I reckn'!!!

Sample tank is handy, but its not the full version so you can only use the included soundds which are for the most part when you use the effects very good. However, I wouldn't buy it on its own, and Im now in the market for something like Halion anyways.

RMIV definately very good but haven't used it much yet.

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As I understand it, the bundled plugs are marketed as being "included free"* .. so they aren't part of Tracktion itself, and you do indeed have a "full" version. :shrug:

* In the same way that your Tracktion license was "included free" with a hardware purchase.

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Well now I'm bummed. Guess it's time to look for a good freeware drum machine VST.

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