Luckily in this case I happen to know Jon personally and he shops at Black Market Music as I do. That means he also buys plenty of funky old pedals too!Stupid American Pig wrote:Jon brion said it best inThis article
Jon Brion wrote:There are so many techniques that put the power in your hands—which, to me, is always a good thing. The more your hands can be the important part of the tonal equation, the more your playing will highlight your particular style of expression. If you string up eight effects in a row, it’s near impossible to hear the personality of the player anymore. In fact, it almost doesn’t matter who the player is, because all the compression and delays and reverbs and multiple distortion boxes make the whole sound totally generic. I don’t want my sound neutered by some chorus pedal that destroys personality—I want people to hear every little pop and click of the strings when I have my fingers on the instrument. So I’d rather construct tones with a weird amp and guitar combination—some tiny ’50s practice amp that’s on the verge of dying, and a guitar that makes a “gwonk” sound because it only has three really dead strings left on it.
Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!
- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
I can kill it...did you see the new gui?A3ntar wrote:this thread is never going to die...LOL
Squids, any news on sound samples from IK or yourself?
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- KVRian
- 1074 posts since 23 Apr, 2003
O.k, I pollute this great thread with a bit of on-topic-ness. Does anybody know whether IKMM will contact Amplitube 1 buyers (the ones that bought after September 1st) directly when Amplitube 2 is out? Will they send the stuff directly to me? Or do I have to keep watching their site until something moves? (I might get old doing this...) 
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
I'm really not all that sure about the purpose of tons of amp models and tons of stomp boxes...
I mean, let's see, what sort of amp sounds do you really need?
Basically it's three kinds of sounds: Clean, crunchy and heavily overdriven.
Now, you want some variety, sure. That's what tone controls can be used for. I know, on most vintage amps tone controls don't do much, but hey, we're talking software here.
So, give me ONE amp model for each basic sound and an effective tone/shape control section!
Give me ONE overdrive/distortion/boost stompbox with flexible controls!
Give me ONE modulation effect with flexible controls!
ONE delay...
ONE reverb...
Etc...
I mean, seriously, we're talking software here and I'm getting sick of all the 1:1 emulations not taking advance of what computers have to offer - especially if the socalled emulations aren't sounding even close to the real deal anyways.
As a result we're faced with wasted screen estate, lots of differently looking interfaces that are a royal PITA to tweak because they all look and behave different.
Look at what Emagic has done: NONE of their instruments and plugins are even trying to look like any hardware. As a result they are effective when it comes to tweaking things. All the knobs feel the same. Screen estate is used very efficiently.
I would take any bet that, regardless whether it's AT2 or GR2, the Rectifier models WON'T sound like a mic'ed up Boogie.
So, why should software look like one? Give me a nicely designed, efficient interface called "drive amp" and there we go. Heck, I wouldn't even need different models at all. Just some switches to change the character.
Oh yes, all those nice amp-alike looking models are good for ads. But hey, f**k it, I don't give a damn.
I would prefer something along the lines of a POD in software any day. One interface for all amp, stompbox and FX types!
Yeah, I allready hear the marketing folks cringe... "Nooooo, we need to attract Joey Wannabethenextshreddingmonster, so we need all that emulation glory".
Just that in the end the experienced user has to deal with way less than comfortable interfaces, fumbling around with optical gizmos.
I mean, let's see, what sort of amp sounds do you really need?
Basically it's three kinds of sounds: Clean, crunchy and heavily overdriven.
Now, you want some variety, sure. That's what tone controls can be used for. I know, on most vintage amps tone controls don't do much, but hey, we're talking software here.
So, give me ONE amp model for each basic sound and an effective tone/shape control section!
Give me ONE overdrive/distortion/boost stompbox with flexible controls!
Give me ONE modulation effect with flexible controls!
ONE delay...
ONE reverb...
Etc...
I mean, seriously, we're talking software here and I'm getting sick of all the 1:1 emulations not taking advance of what computers have to offer - especially if the socalled emulations aren't sounding even close to the real deal anyways.
As a result we're faced with wasted screen estate, lots of differently looking interfaces that are a royal PITA to tweak because they all look and behave different.
Look at what Emagic has done: NONE of their instruments and plugins are even trying to look like any hardware. As a result they are effective when it comes to tweaking things. All the knobs feel the same. Screen estate is used very efficiently.
I would take any bet that, regardless whether it's AT2 or GR2, the Rectifier models WON'T sound like a mic'ed up Boogie.
So, why should software look like one? Give me a nicely designed, efficient interface called "drive amp" and there we go. Heck, I wouldn't even need different models at all. Just some switches to change the character.
Oh yes, all those nice amp-alike looking models are good for ads. But hey, f**k it, I don't give a damn.
I would prefer something along the lines of a POD in software any day. One interface for all amp, stompbox and FX types!
Yeah, I allready hear the marketing folks cringe... "Nooooo, we need to attract Joey Wannabethenextshreddingmonster, so we need all that emulation glory".
Just that in the end the experienced user has to deal with way less than comfortable interfaces, fumbling around with optical gizmos.
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Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- TopModernGeezer
- 2679 posts since 14 Mar, 2001 from Stuttgart, Germany
.. ah, come one, dont exaggerate.dc12 wrote:.. maybe i can't play guitar anymore wheh AT2 finally come out.
we´re just talking years when AT2 will finally be released, not decades ..
putte
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- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from New Delhi, India
Greenmachine comes to mind!Sascha Franck wrote: I would take any bet that, regardless whether it's AT2 or GR2, the Rectifier models WON'T sound like a mic'ed up Boogie.
So, why should software look like one? Give me a nicely designed, efficient interface called "drive amp" and there we go.
Sidhu
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 21 Aug, 2005
putte wrote:.. ah, come one, dont exaggerate.dc12 wrote:.. maybe i can't play guitar anymore wheh AT2 finally come out.
we´re just talking years when AT2 will finally be released, not decades ..
putte
uhh cool,i'm 27 now.
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- TopModernGeezer
- 2679 posts since 14 Mar, 2001 from Stuttgart, Germany
.. don´t worry, you´ll still be able to play the guitar when you´re 29 ..dc12 wrote:uhh cool,i'm 27 now.
putte
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- KVRer
- 5 posts since 24 Oct, 2005
Sorry to be butting in on this topic but I have a Question for Squids if he could oblige. Did IK give a deadline for when all the presets are to be submitted by the sound programmers? How is the Beta test going on AT2?
I own AT1, GTRig1, Waves GTR, the Simuanalog stuff and a POD XT. But none of them give me an appropriate sense of realism when used with high gain settings (think Tool, NIN, Opeth). Arguably AT1 is the closest though. It's got good bottom. Hoping AT2 has the magic I'm talking bout. I'm working on an album right now and I would love it if the the AT2 release fell into the time frame before production wraps on this record. I know you're still in the Wilma mess, and I empathize, but business carries on, no? Thanks- EV
I own AT1, GTRig1, Waves GTR, the Simuanalog stuff and a POD XT. But none of them give me an appropriate sense of realism when used with high gain settings (think Tool, NIN, Opeth). Arguably AT1 is the closest though. It's got good bottom. Hoping AT2 has the magic I'm talking bout. I'm working on an album right now and I would love it if the the AT2 release fell into the time frame before production wraps on this record. I know you're still in the Wilma mess, and I empathize, but business carries on, no? Thanks- EV
