Uniwire / Cubase SX3- Can I freeze or render to audio?
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Viva Las Vegas Viva Las Vegas https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=60471
- KVRist
- 30 posts since 6 Mar, 2005 from Las Vegas, NV
I am thinking of purchasing Receptor to relieve my poor over-worked DAW. With the uniwire connection with Cubase SX3- Can I freeze or render to audio just like I would with a VST instrument on my PC? Or, do I have to record audio out of Receptor into my DAW.
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Sean Dockery
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- KVRian
- 1116 posts since 22 Apr, 2005 from Nashville, TN USA
There some good recent threads in this forum...search on "Freeze" and "Uniwire" as well.Viva Las Vegas wrote:I am thinking of purchasing Receptor to relieve my poor over-worked DAW. With the uniwire connection with Cubase SX3- Can I freeze or render to audio just like I would with a VST instrument on my PC? Or, do I have to record audio out of Receptor into my DAW.
Here's the official answer when I asked the question recently:
From this thread: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... ght=freezeDanTimis wrote:UniWire works ONLY in real-time. Freeze or any other offline processing will not work.Hybernation wrote:I do have one burning question that I didn't see explicitly answered, though: will the Uniwire VST support "fast freeze" from within Sonar and other hosts, like most other VST instruments do? I hope so!
There are workarounds. I don't know Sonar, but in Cubase you can either export a mix in real-time (and of course you can solo just one MIDI track), or you can record the output of each Receptor channel to an audio track. It's not as convenient as freeze, but it is pretty easy to do.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 30 posts since 6 Mar, 2005 from Las Vegas, NV
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- MUSEician
- 682 posts since 20 Aug, 2004 from California
You cannot freeze, but you can render to audio in real-time. Both methods are basically the same. In both cases audio is rendered, saved, and later it is played back from disk.
Freezing is a little bit more convenient. It can happen faster than real-time, and you don't have to think about managing your tracks. Rendering with UniWire works only in real-time, so it may take longer. Before you render you may need to mute or disable the tracks you do not want to render. Then, once you rendered you have to mute and disable manually the tracks you just rendered, and unmute the ones you didn't render.
On the other hand the purpose of freezing is so that you spare precious CPU cycles on your computer. UniWire and Receptor do the same, they allow you to free some of the CPU power. So depending on what you are trying to do, you might not need freezing with UniWire.
And every time you run out of CPU power, you can buy another Receptor.
Freezing is a little bit more convenient. It can happen faster than real-time, and you don't have to think about managing your tracks. Rendering with UniWire works only in real-time, so it may take longer. Before you render you may need to mute or disable the tracks you do not want to render. Then, once you rendered you have to mute and disable manually the tracks you just rendered, and unmute the ones you didn't render.
On the other hand the purpose of freezing is so that you spare precious CPU cycles on your computer. UniWire and Receptor do the same, they allow you to free some of the CPU power. So depending on what you are trying to do, you might not need freezing with UniWire.
And every time you run out of CPU power, you can buy another Receptor.
Dan Timis
Software Developer
Muse Research, Inc.
Software Developer
Muse Research, Inc.
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- KVRian
- 1116 posts since 22 Apr, 2005 from Nashville, TN USA
One other point worth mentioning....If you have an audio card like an EMU1212M (or the other one) that has the ADAT interface, you can actually render 5 independant stereo tracks from Receptor at one time (SPDIF+ADAT1-4). I find this very convenient! So much so, that lack of Freeze is REALLY not a big deal for me like I thought it would be. I do "zero latency" direct monitoring from the card while tracking, and then when I am almost finished with a song and ready to mix down, then I do the 5-track rendering in one pass so everything is captured in audio and ready to mix.
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Viva Las Vegas Viva Las Vegas https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=60471
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 30 posts since 6 Mar, 2005 from Las Vegas, NV
I guess I'm just spoiled now with the 30 second "export to audio" that I'm used to now. It almost feels like I would be going backwards, technology speaking. It's still worth it, though, because my DAW cannot take any more of my heavy VSTi abuse that I keep putting it through.
Sean Dockery
www.SeanDockery.net
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- KVRian
- 1116 posts since 22 Apr, 2005 from Nashville, TN USA
That is EXACTLY the conclusion I came to and so I bought the Collosus/Receptor bundle. So far I'm EXTREMELY pleased. It has effectively doubled my VST power (from just a Dell Precision 370 with 3.2gHz 2GB RAM).Viva Las Vegas wrote:It's still worth it, though, because my DAW cannot take any more of my heavy VSTi abuse that I keep putting it through.
