replace Waves for me
- KVRAF
- 2036 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Seattle, WA - USA
I just wanted to mention that Voxengo Soniformer is a unique mastering compressor that utilizes many bands of compression and I wouldn't consider it a RenComp substitute at all. It's more along the lines of the C4 or Linear Phase Multi-Band. Also, for the C1, I think another good candidate could be the Sonitus fx:compressor. It also strives for a cleaner, more transparent sound, though it does lack the sidechain capabilities. I've come to really like the C1, actually. Though "clean", it does give you a good amount of control with a pretty elegant user interface.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3971 posts since 19 Apr, 2005 from Brissie
No probs, Jan - I've added it. Must admit, I didn't realise it was a VST plugin - thought it was standalone, so didn't qualify.
Anyone else want to add to the pool?

Anyone else want to add to the pool?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3971 posts since 19 Apr, 2005 from Brissie
Actually, Ozone looks interesting, besides the fact that you couldn't use it on individual channels (like the more flexible single fx). Any other opinions on it?
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- KVRist
- 207 posts since 28 May, 2005
If you don't master oth and do all by yourself then really recommend Ozone for bit reduction (mbit´algos), and it's got very good limiter and absolutely crazy loaded eq for something different.
- KVRAF
- 9220 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN
I've been using the Wave Arts stuff a lot lately- great stuff
The MultiDynamics plug's a great multiband compressor; the TrackPlug's a ual compressor/limiter/gate EQ that's very low on CPU, and the Masterverb's a good all-around reverb. If I want a specific room with ifferent wall materials, etc; I use the reverb that's part of Panorama. They're all extremely easy on the CPU as well.
Give them a try- there's demos for all.
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Give them a try- there's demos for all.
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A spectral heretic...
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- KVRist
- 63 posts since 22 Apr, 2003
Waves are riding the cutting edge of DSP technology. They are constantly releasing best-in-class products and are pushing the envelope of what is possible further.
Waves EQ was used in the design stages of the Manley Massive Passive EQ. So if you don't appreciate Waves EQ, you probably also wouldn't appreciate some of the most revered hardware on the planet.
Of course there is no accounting for taste, but from an audio engineering standpoint, Waves offers the most solid and advanced collection of signal processors in the industry.
The Renaissance EQ is 7 years old now, and like it or not, it is still an industry standard. If you listen to professionally produced music at all, you are not going to be able to avoid it, and you will probably want to own one yourself.
cerberus
Waves EQ was used in the design stages of the Manley Massive Passive EQ. So if you don't appreciate Waves EQ, you probably also wouldn't appreciate some of the most revered hardware on the planet.
Of course there is no accounting for taste, but from an audio engineering standpoint, Waves offers the most solid and advanced collection of signal processors in the industry.
The Renaissance EQ is 7 years old now, and like it or not, it is still an industry standard. If you listen to professionally produced music at all, you are not going to be able to avoid it, and you will probably want to own one yourself.
cerberus
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- KVRist
- 100 posts since 2 Jul, 2001 from PA, USA
- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
Ah, but why was it used, and what for?cerberus wrote:
Waves EQ was used in the design stages of the Manley Massive Passive EQ. So if you don't appreciate Waves EQ, you probably also wouldn't appreciate some of the most revered hardware on the planet.
So you are saying that if you like this $5,000 tribute to analog engineering you have to like the Waves eq....why??The Manley ad people wrote:The MASSIVE PASSIVE is a two channel, four band equalizer, with additional high pass and low pass filters. "Passive" refers to the tone shaping part of this clever new EQ design not using any active circuitry. Only metal film resistors, film capacitors and hand-wound inductors sculpt the sound, kinda like a Pultec EQ on hyper-steroids. Super-beefy, hugely-high-headroom Manley all-tube make-up gain amplifiers deliver your tunes into the next realm. You'll need to experience this.
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- KVRist
- 63 posts since 22 Apr, 2003
The Waves C10 EQ was used to model target response curves during the design stage of the Massive. Then Manley sent the data back to Waves and it was used to help model the response curves for Renaissance EQ.
So if you own these Waves EQs, you are not just "paying tribute" to analog gear, you are buying solid audio engineering.
cerberus
So if you own these Waves EQs, you are not just "paying tribute" to analog gear, you are buying solid audio engineering.
cerberus
- KVRAF
- 6478 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Kingston's highly opinionated and elitist suggestions
L2/L1 = Tapebus, Elephant, Ozone, Finis
Linear Phase Equalizer = PLParEQ series
True Verb Room Emulator, Renaissance Reverberator = Arts Acoustic Reverb, Princeton reverbs, Pristine space (or analogflux impulse) with the best of noisevault and that new L480 set.
Renaissance Equalizer, Q10 = ElectriQ/posihfopit, Hydratone
Linear Phase Multiband, C4 Multiband Parametric Processor = bleh (best learn to mix first) but if you absolutely must, then soniformer
Maxx Bass, Renaissance Bass = Voxengo LF-Max
Renaissance DeEsser = Voxengo Voxformer (for wideband), Digital Fish Phones Spitfish (for narrowband); Kjaerhus Audio GAC-1
C1 Parametric Compander, Renaissance Compressor, Renaissance Vox, Renaissance channel = MArquis, GCO-1, compadre, cruchessor, digitalfishphones and numerous great freebies, Voxengo Voxformer, Kjaerhus Audio GAC-1 and Wave Arts TrackPlug (but preferably combos of separate plugins) etc etc etc
L2/L1 = Tapebus, Elephant, Ozone, Finis
Linear Phase Equalizer = PLParEQ series
True Verb Room Emulator, Renaissance Reverberator = Arts Acoustic Reverb, Princeton reverbs, Pristine space (or analogflux impulse) with the best of noisevault and that new L480 set.
Renaissance Equalizer, Q10 = ElectriQ/posihfopit, Hydratone
Linear Phase Multiband, C4 Multiband Parametric Processor = bleh (best learn to mix first) but if you absolutely must, then soniformer
Maxx Bass, Renaissance Bass = Voxengo LF-Max
Renaissance DeEsser = Voxengo Voxformer (for wideband), Digital Fish Phones Spitfish (for narrowband); Kjaerhus Audio GAC-1
C1 Parametric Compander, Renaissance Compressor, Renaissance Vox, Renaissance channel = MArquis, GCO-1, compadre, cruchessor, digitalfishphones and numerous great freebies, Voxengo Voxformer, Kjaerhus Audio GAC-1 and Wave Arts TrackPlug (but preferably combos of separate plugins) etc etc etc
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- KVRist
- 37 posts since 23 Nov, 2005
I would chime in with the UAD-1 card. By default it has no mastering suite per se, but I find LA-2A and LN1176 very good, quality-wise more pleasing than any native plug equivalent. Moreover, they soon have a new mastering plug available. These plugs have more "gear" sound than any native plug I have heard. For EQ they offer two optional ones like Cambridge and Precision EQ. Their Precision Limiter is excellent as well.
