Is pop music at its bottom?

[CypherOne]

my hump,my bump my lovely lady humps?

although I might get laughed at, I thought The Black Eyed Peas made some fairly passable 'pop' but f**k, that song...what were they thinking? the c**ts.

[tetraplan]

Groet, Erik

[CypherOne]

still, it's good that we've got something to argue about.

no it isnt

ah, shaddapa ya face.

[griels]

oh vienna

[vurt]

my hump,my bump my lovely lady humps?

although I might get laughed at, I thought The Black Eyed Peas made some fairly passable 'pop' but fcuk, that song...what were they thinking? the c**ts.

i agree it is a somewhat turgid piece of turd
i persoanlly think they were better without the whiny bint anyway

[vurt]

oh viennetta

its a bit cold aint it

[griels]

its a bit cold aint it

this means nothing to me?

[Marco Raaphorst]

I hear lots of interesting stuff. independant radio, podcasts. www.disfish.com

[mikejade]

Well, the not-really-lesbian Tattoo made a SECOND coming, so that really might be it. The rock bottom of pop music.

I don't even call it pop anymore. It's simply tits-and-ass business, or soft porn with a beat... You get the feeling these days that videos are done before the songs, then they just fit the hooks in...

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Celebrity - a pursue of the talentless by the mindless

[peejunk]

Wow, how inflamatory of you my golden-eared friend! Anyway, to save our discussion from your lack of manners, here it is for the south-slavic challenged (Davor's bollox are in italics):

It seems that in Bosnia you haven't been exposed to 80s pop

I wish

which isn't odd if we consider where you live

Yeah, very far from the mittel-european paradise of Croatia

If you think that Lepa Brena is pop then I could even agree with you.

Lepa Brena for the uninitiated -- the brightest star at the dawn of the dreaded turbofolk phenomenna, she's now pretty much runs that whole circus as a media magnate.

If you find Soundgarden to be pop, I'm not surprised by your categorisation.

Well they sure seem to fit the bill:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_music

Besides, I'm a Bosnian simpleton so I keep it simple, if I see it on Em Tee Vee, it's gotta be pop

I'd also really like to see the exact quote where I SAID (i.e. it's not your small-minded misinterpretation of what I said) that "rapping = singing".

Anyway, can anyone say New Kids On the Block, Samantha Fox, Kim Wilde, Bruce Sprin.. naah, I don't wanna touch that wasp nest with a 10-foot pole..

[davor]

That's not pop, you bosnian bonehead. If you call Soundgarden pop, you must be an idiot. As far as I know their style was called grunge or ,at least, "rock". Bjork is the morst overrated piece of "quasy art" crap, I've ever heard - although that doesn't make it pop either.

actually your the idiot,pop music = popular music so with that definition in place any music which enters a chart is popular.so any music which includes grunge or quasi art shite or yep even rock that makes it into the top 40 is pop

Vurt don't get smart, pal. What's the point of this discussion then - everything that is released today could be called pop ---- cause it's popular, and it can be marketed ---- otherwise it wouldn't be released, right? Where would that lead us? Then the original question might have as well been, is the music today at the bottom.

I agree that "rock" music was much better in the 90's than it is today, but we're talking about pop in the narrower sense, no? That distincition exists, doesn't it _ pop versus rock, techno etc?

Rock has reached the bottom at beginning of the millenium, and still is at the bottom, that is true. Just look at that guy from Soundgarden today - the singer. The stuff he does is a pity excuse for rock.

[chagzuki]

I think that the 3 minute single model is a fairly good definition of pop. Doesn't really matter the genre - it appeals to a different demographic but performs more or less the same function.

[chagzuki]

I don't really care about pop(ular) music in general; I certainly never liked most of what's considered the quality music in the 90s. Even the best of the indie bands were dull compared to Bowie, Queen etc when they were at their best and as a teenager it was more exiting to listen to artists of the 70s then most of what was happening at the time. What I liked in the early 90s was the the fact that there was an underground hardcore scene that was buzzing in London (which quickly evolved into drum & bass and other things), there were quality death metal / grindcore acts such as Carcass, Morbid Angel, Deicide (who soon either split or became formulaic for commercial ends). There were unique artist's like Aphex Twin pushing the boundaries of electronic music. It was a vibrant time in terms of sub-cultural music.


Now the idea of being involved in some sort of counter-cultural art scene in London is ludicrous. It's nearly impossible to just make ends meat financially, and there's just no uncommercialised public space for people to gather. There are just wank-arsed designer clubs where a pint of lager costs more than half the minimum wage and where some wanker DJ will play music so loud that the walls and floor vibrate louder than the music itself and a bunch of trendy young new media types with designer f**ked-up hair who arrived on foldable scooters will try to out-do each other in terms of their conversational references to obscure bits of popular culture. Similarly, most artist's studio spaces have been converted into offices or appartments.

[daGuru]

LMAO @ designer f**ked-up hair.... reminds me of "Flock Of Seagulls"

[Failed Muso]