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Seriously though, why doesnt propellerheads give Reason VST compatability?
Why doesn't propellerheads make Reason a VST plug?????
I would buy it in a heartbeat. If nothing more, Reason is by far the GREATEST drum module out there...but fcku Rewire!!!
They maybe should relese the code for third party vst developers, so they could make a reason version of their plugs. What you think about that?
I made this feature request a couple years ago in the Props forum and the close minded twats who rant and rave in said forum spewed out nonsense like, "What's the point when there's rewire and yadda yadda blah blah". I would say that it would be a good move for both the Props AND 3rd party developers.
The only thing that has stopped me from buying Reason is the sequencer...I think it is very weak and lacking even some of the basic things that a sequencer should have.
I agree that it lacks certain fundamental features but it has got be the easiest sequencer i have ever used. It also has a decent flow to it where i can just fly through songs no problem. Thanks to Energy XT, i saved myself $500 cause Ext has a GREAT flow as well and hell of a lot more features.
Ah yes! I'd forgotten about my other bugbear
with Reason...The Rack!
So painfully slow having to scroll up and down to get to something.
I agree 100,000% :D Scrolling SUX SUX SUX. Whoever can come up with a host that requires NO SCROLLING either vertically and horizontally gets my sister and her friends. The way to go is with the modular concept. I came up with a way to do this quick, easy and no fundamentals left undone. Now if i can get my lazy ass to code it :?
Give me freedom or give me television

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Sleepwalker wrote: Funny you mention that! I bought a new PC you see, in august, and it still aint running everything configured and working as I like. It would take me 5 minutes to get everything up and running, with drivers, conections to gear, and everything with a mac straight out of the box. Windows sucks right out of the box!!
Sure....
I know where you're coming from.
You sorta have to be a geek to
run a PC to the level needed for
audio.

I did a TAFE course in the mid 90's
and learned how to build and troubleshoot
PCs. (TAFE is technical college in Australia)

I tend to forget that not everyone is into
it like myself. So sorry for that.

Buying a PC off the shelf is fraught with
danger as most manufactureres aim their
products at the LCD end of the market.
Much better to roll your own, which
requires a lot of research before buying
the various bits and pieces.
And that's not for everyone.

I have nothing against macs except the
extortionate pricing.

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Lunch Money wrote:<shrug>

I dunno about people with these difficult XP systems. I've been using Windows XP since it came out (pre-SP1) and it's never been a problem. Everything has worked out of the box that was XP-related. I've had one or two little problems along the way, but nothing that wasn't easily fixed, and nothing that could be traced back to XP itself.

A friend of mine was unlucky enough to get one of the thousands of shitty iBooks with battery and screen issues. Dead screens on a certain generation of iBooks was so common and well-known that it was practically an epidemic. Hardly proves that Mac always work out of the box and can always be depended on. Then his battery stopped holding a charge. Again, hardly dependable or reliable. I seem to remember the firewire external drive being a problem, too, but I wouldn' swear to it.

Does that mean that all Mac suck? Of course not! But they're certainly not the reliability champions that some people like to think they are.

Greg
Shure, but the ratio difference is steep! If 5% of the macs released gives headaches, 25% of XPs doo! If hardware doesnt work, send it inn, get a new. Im talking more about the overall systems helth, stability and vitality over the time spam your using it.

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Sleepwalker wrote: time spam .
is that like "time squared" but the fake ham version?
:P
check my profile for contact info.
msn messenger is my email as well.

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Jason Brian Merrill wrote:
Sleepwalker wrote: time spam .
is that like "time squared" but the fake ham version?
:P
english not my native talking, is! :P

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Sleepwalker wrote:
Hmm, but does it have a built in sequencer? Its all in chinese!!

Thanks for all your imput guys, and girls! :wink:
there is not a built in sequencer, but i believe it will.

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Sleepwalker wrote:Shure, but the ratio difference is steep! If 5% of the macs released gives headaches, 25% of XPs doo! If hardware doesnt work, send it inn, get a new. Im talking more about the overall systems helth, stability and vitality over the time spam your using it.
Love to know where you get your bullshit statistics from, Sleepwalker.
m@

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Sleepwalker wrote: ....Shure, but the ratio difference is
steep! If 5% of the macs released gives
headaches, 25% of XPs doo! If hardware
doesnt work, send it inn, get a
new.....
Not sure how you worked those percentages
out, but it's a bit like comparing apples
to oranges isn't it it?

MACs are proprietary, closed systems,
whereas PCs are highly configurable
open systems.
There is no such thing as a "standard"
PC so it would seem a bit of a stretch
to compare them to MACs.

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GypsyJazz wrote:
Sleepwalker wrote: ....Shure, but the ratio difference is
steep! If 5% of the macs released gives
headaches, 25% of XPs doo! If hardware
doesnt work, send it inn, get a
new.....
Not sure how you worked those percentages
out, but it's a bit like comparing apples
to oranges isn't it it?

MACs are proprietary, closed systems,
whereas PCs are highly configurable
open systems.
There is no such thing as a "standard"
PC so it would seem a bit of a stretch
to compare them to MACs.
Your right bouth of you, well I was way of topic anyway. Had a stroke of bordom, and then came the vaige analyses! :wink: Gues im talking about the overal feel :P

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Sleepwalker wrote: Your right bouth of you, well I was way of topic anyway. Had a stroke of bordom, and then came the vaige analyses! :wink: Gues im talking about the overal feel :P
hehehehe

I can imagine the PC world must seem
very strange to a dyed in the wool
mac user...so many variables........

100's of different motherboards.
Graphics cards, ram ....even the
choice of cpu can be overwhelming....

Whereas a mac is a mac is a mac
Each model an exact carbon copy of all the
others...........

Must seem just a tad anarchic eh?

But in reality, if you apply a little
logic and do your research well,
you can end up with a much more powerful
machine than the current line of Macs.

My point here being that XP has to deal
with all these hardware variables
and still manages to be the dominant
OS.

It gets even stranger when you consider
that because of the existence of programs
like nLitethere are actually 100's, if
not thousands of different variations
of XP floating around out there......

As I've said before:
That could all change when Apple go over
to the darkside (intel ).
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Do you deliberately write your posts in a poemlike-composition GypsyJazz? :P
I'm a Jugga Nut!

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HUH?

Whaddya mean?

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Let me show you a picture of how it looks like on my computer:
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I'm a Jugga Nut!

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GypsyJazz wrote:
Sleepwalker wrote: Funny you mention that! I bought a new PC you see, in august, and it still aint running everything configured and working as I like. It would take me 5 minutes to get everything up and running, with drivers, conections to gear, and everything with a mac straight out of the box. Windows sucks right out of the box!!
Sure....
I know where you're coming from.
You sorta have to be a geek to
run a PC to the level needed for
audio.
No you don't, you just visit your friendly neighborhood "audio PC specialist retailer" and pick one up. Building PC's is for people who simply like to build PC's. If you went to any computer store and picked up a decent spec'd over the counter PC, it should be able to run any PC audio application without a problem. You will need to add a respectable audio interface for quality recording and low latency performance, but it works. If you find that you need "more", give Carillon or Sweetwater a call and they will build you one to your spec and certify that it will run flawlessly.

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If you need something you can just send in when it doesn't work right, you get a Dell, HP, or whatever other "name brand" you want to go with.

All works the same way.

I worked as a systems integrator, tech, and general 'puter biatch for a while and we sold units to the local hospitals (the company had a contract). These were servers, running at the time Windows NT, in mission-critical applications. No worries.

After I became a teacher, I discovered that the schoolboard used all Macs still, and was pretty happy about going into an all-Mac lab. Until every 5 minutes the students were saying, "My computer froze. My mouse isn't working. My speakers are making funny noises" and all kinds of other things. Certain things were end-user, but not many. And there WERE about 5 freezes per 40-minute block, and not always on the same machine.

It really opened my eyes to the alleged stability of Macs. I think it's all just marketing bullshit that people have bought into, quite frankly. Then my friend got the iBook, which was a more modern computer than the iBooks (first generation, the kind with the coloured monitors that people got all wet for for some reason) that were freezing up at the school lab. I figured it was time to see a real Mac in action. And it WAS pretty good when it lasted. I really quite liked it. Until the battery stopped holding a charge (which was workable because he switched to using the power supply) and then the screen went dead (which required a return).

If these were isolated cases, I'd still be a believer, but since we were up north at the time of the laptop problems, I was researching trying to help him find a possible problem or cure, and I quickly discovered that they were both known and pervasive problems, not isolated one-offs. And any teachers I've talked to about their Macs have bitched endlessly-- some of them simply because they're used to Windows at home. I ignore those complaints because they don't address the issue. But many others simply refer to the unreliability-- being in the middle of entering report card marks and having system crashes, for example.

It's all hooey. Macs aren't these 'dream machines' that Apple and other Mac users would have you believe.

On the other hand, none of the last 4 home-built computers, OR my Toshiba Laptop, OR my girlfriend's Dell Laptop, OR the school's new computers (they switched to PCs integrated by a local company, so they're not even "Dell" or whatever) have so much as burped at me without quick and easy explanation. (one hard drive gave up the ghost after several years' use)

But... I ramble again, and it's not like I'm saying anything more than the same circular arguments that people have said a million times. I'm just restating them because I happen to have a free minute. <chuckle>

Greg
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