What has this thread been reduced to?
Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!
- KVRAF
- 9064 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
the clock is ticking...


- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Wow this thread is hard to keep up with. Some funny stuff though. I can confirm that the longer wait for AT2 is not some marketing strategy though. No one is telling you not to get GR either. All of that is, of course, each person's choice. You can have an idea of what is coming with AT2 and decide for yourself. If you can afford to get more than one then it doesn't matter. If you want to pick just one then it might be worth waiting a bit more so you can really compare and see which is best for you.
As to the why this and that... just imagine that it is a complex product to do (to do right that is) and that each aspect of it needs to be optimal on every platform in a variety of different ways. Some things take longer in development than you expect. The entire framework of AmpliTube 2 is new and it is also the engine behind products like Ampeg SVX. As I said, this is not just a simple update. It's a new generation of IK software and a foundation for some really great new products.
As for the zillions of combinations thing... sorry but for those that know this is one of the most unique and KILLER aspects of AmpliTube. To be able to have a built-in custom amp shop essentially is wicked. It's something that would be impracticle in mos hardware (messing around with the components of your vintage amps? hmmm) but sure is cool to be able to do in software.
Right now you can get a good idea of the specs. Maybe as early as next week you can actually hear it (don't know when the demo riffs are going up but soon I think) and then before long you'll be able to buy it. Sorry I can't give you an exact date. I know people are getting antsy. I don't blame you. There probably were some lessons learned as there always are for practically any company's major release experiences. But, I've also seen companies rush something out the door half-baked and that's not the best thing to do either. When it is just right it will be out of the oven.
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As to the why this and that... just imagine that it is a complex product to do (to do right that is) and that each aspect of it needs to be optimal on every platform in a variety of different ways. Some things take longer in development than you expect. The entire framework of AmpliTube 2 is new and it is also the engine behind products like Ampeg SVX. As I said, this is not just a simple update. It's a new generation of IK software and a foundation for some really great new products.
As for the zillions of combinations thing... sorry but for those that know this is one of the most unique and KILLER aspects of AmpliTube. To be able to have a built-in custom amp shop essentially is wicked. It's something that would be impracticle in mos hardware (messing around with the components of your vintage amps? hmmm) but sure is cool to be able to do in software.
Right now you can get a good idea of the specs. Maybe as early as next week you can actually hear it (don't know when the demo riffs are going up but soon I think) and then before long you'll be able to buy it. Sorry I can't give you an exact date. I know people are getting antsy. I don't blame you. There probably were some lessons learned as there always are for practically any company's major release experiences. But, I've also seen companies rush something out the door half-baked and that's not the best thing to do either. When it is just right it will be out of the oven.
- AcousticHippie
- 4769 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
Well I can only afford one and have blindly decided it will be AT2 - it WILL be great I believe since I like every product of IK very much so far... I love my T-RackS and the AMplitube LE thingy has been great for me so far.... BUT the upgrade doesn't seem to arrive here anymore
I ordered it long ago and the store still says it's not there yet,......
that's why I decided to build my own - well paint my own and wait for duncan to make the rest... btw I'm currently drawing some stompboxes... so if anyone wants to sign up for the coding job *gg*
that's why I decided to build my own - well paint my own and wait for duncan to make the rest... btw I'm currently drawing some stompboxes... so if anyone wants to sign up for the coding job *gg*
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Squids, as much as I like you, this is nonsense, nothing else.Squids wrote: As for the zillions of combinations thing... sorry but for those that know this is one of the most unique and KILLER aspects of AmpliTube. To be able to have a built-in custom amp shop essentially is wicked. It's something that would be impracticle in mos hardware (messing around with the components of your vintage amps? hmmm) but sure is cool to be able to do in software.
The reason why people are fooling around in amp simulations and why they're asking for additional models and parameters is very simple: Because the essential things aren't right in the first place.
And at the same time that's the reason why I usually don't need to modify my real amps, because they're just sounding like what I want/need/expect.
If there was a proper sounding Plexi Marshall (or any other VIP amp) simulation, nobody would want to modify it. Plus, with all the plethora of modular hosts and additional FX it'd still be easy to do so.
If there was a proper sounding Plexi Marshall simulation, companies would post dry clips of just that on their websites. There's none for AT1. There's none for GR1 and 2. Because they don't exist, it's that simple.
And because of that people are asking for quantity - "true" quality not being available.
Over the years I've been recording quite some stuff, even things that were up to quite some variable guitar sounds. I hardly ever needed more than 2 amps (usually a Mark IV and a Marshall). OK, I borrowed a Vox occasionally, but that's been about it.
And it's like that for most of us guitar players, you're happy with a proper clean, crunch and high gain sound, then you may add some pedal stuff.
Having said all that, I rather have 2-3 REALLY great sounding models than 20 average ones, regardless whether it's hard- or software.
Amp simulations don't sound REALLY great yet. And I'd be truly astonished if AT2 was any different.
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Sasha, I like you too. But, in my opinion you are full of it.
Just kidding!!!! I see your point. But, some people want to have their cake and eat it too. So, accurate modeling on the one hand and the ability to make your own custom hybrid as well? Works for me! Why not have more options available to you since it is a VIRTUAL world (not the same limitations and hassles of real hardware). Hey, I like that kind of stuff a lot. I am sure thousands of others do as well. To each his own eh?
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
so flat out let me ask, does the customer consume the cost of securing trademarks? It seems too me that tone is so subjective that one customers memory and perception of the tone could be quite different then the next's. So in truth it is in the name no? At least the names are more about promotion and advertising right? I buy amps because I like how they sound....I don't want to pay extra just to see the name on my screen to validate it does sound good, I trust my ears...Squids wrote:Sasha, I like you too. But, in my opinion you are full of it.Just kidding!!!! I see your point. But, some people want to have their cake and eat it too. So, accurate modeling on the one hand and the ability to make your own custom hybrid as well? Works for me! Why not have more options available to you since it is a VIRTUAL world (not the same limitations and hassles of real hardware). Hey, I like that kind of stuff a lot. I am sure thousands of others do as well. To each his own eh?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2035 posts since 6 Sep, 2005
Hourrray!!! Is that "next week" on the italian calender though?Maybe as early as next week you can actually hear it (don't know when the demo riffs are going up but soon I think)
I agree to a certain extent Squids. This is software after all, meaning that once you release the first iteration, nothing is written in stone. You can add minor bugfixes and enhancments later in release 2.0.1 for example. That is what everyone is doing. Then it becomes a tradeoff of time vs quality vs market share. Of course, you have to iron out the big bugs ( show stoppers ) before the first release, but I am guessing that these have been already dealt with.But, I've also seen companies rush something out the door half-baked and that's not the best thing to do either
So why not release it now ( if there is no show stoppers ), and issue a patch in a month? We all know that there will be patches and bugfixes coming, and we all understand that software, by its nature is seldom bug free.
What about the sounds? what is taking them so long to produce them since you have already listened to a few last month!
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- KVRist
- 83 posts since 31 Mar, 2005 from Sweden
Like with AT1, GR1 etc I guess it takes some serious tweaking to make it sound anywhere near the amps it's suppose to emulate. Perhaps that's why there's no demo sounds yet. It's not like on a let's say AC30 where you just turn the volume knob until it ROCKS! 
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- KVRAF
- 7316 posts since 7 Mar, 2003
Sascha, as much as I like you.. this is nonsense!Sascha Franck wrote:Squids wrote: Squids, as much as I like you, this is nonsense, nothing else.
The reason why people are fooling around in amp simulations and why they're asking for additional models and parameters is very simple: Because the essential things aren't right in the first place.
And at the same time that's the reason why I usually don't need to modify my real amps, because they're just sounding like what I want/need/expect.
If there was a proper sounding Plexi Marshall (or any other VIP amp) simulation, nobody would want to modify it. Plus, with all the plethora of modular hosts and additional FX it'd still be easy to do so.
C'mon.. the advantage of software amp sims is that we can explore tones that would've been nearly impossible in the hardware world, not the least because of room sizes and cost effectiveness.
I'm guessing you're more of a tradtional guitarist yes? You want your Mesa's and you want your AC30's and a handful of effects, and you're good to go.
Not for me pal. It may seem like an excuse to cover up bad playing to you (I've heard it before from others) but I truly do like to experiment with tones.
I like to chain up impossible signal chains and make a guitar sound like something that doesn't sound like a guitar, and I think AT2 will excel at this.
Remember, amp sims aren't made JUST for guitarists, they're made for anyone who makes music with a computer. If the company is doing the product right, they will factor in everybody. Something I think AT2 will do.
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- KVRian
- 1107 posts since 31 Oct, 2002 from the high desert
Then why are you even waiting for AT2?Andrew Vernon wrote: I like to chain up impossible signal chains and make a guitar sound like something that doesn't sound like a guitar, and I think AT2 will excel at this.
GR2 is what you need....
- KVRAF
- 6097 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
No need to make an otherwise impossible chain, using any of the amp models does that all by themselves.Andrew Vernon wrote:I like to chain up impossible signal chains and make a guitar sound like something that doesn't sound like a guitar, and I think AT2 will excel at this.
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