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WTF? Have you heard ANY remotely expressive musician that stood exactly still? all the best performances I've ever seen featured the musician to be all over the place, from grunty metal screamers to violinists...bernhardtjeff wrote:holy ass, that was salif keita in that shlomo video. that was the best part. now THAT i would like to see.
the 3 things about beatboxers that bore me:
1) the interesting hand movements they make while theyre beatboxing
2) how they never stay with a single beat for more than about 45 seconds
3) how all their beats are in 4/4
if anyone has any videos of a beatboxer working and developing a 7/4 groove for at least 4 minutes while standing totally still, let me know. that would kick ass.
Checking those guys out lead me to this guy who does beatbox with a harmonica.Chase wrote:Theres a pretty interesting human beatbox on ebaums world somewhere..
yes: tom harrell. in the videos i've seen of john coltrane, he stood still, too. miles davis didn't stand totally still all the time, just kinda wondered around the stage, but didn't bounce around like an idiot. saw jim hall in concert once, too. he sat down the whole time. the list goes on...WTF? Have you heard ANY remotely expressive musician that stood exactly still? all the best performances I've ever seen featured the musician to be all over the place, from grunty metal screamers to violinists...
me neither.I wouldn't ever want one to do the same thing for 45 minutes.
yes, they do stick to 4/4 for that reason. and it bores me.and I've heard beatboxes do 3/4 beats, though usually as fills. Most stick to 4/4 as it is standard time sig in most cultures by a wide margin
Miles Davis died 14 years ago, John Coltrane died 38 years ago. I mean, great beatboxers mainly do Drum n' Bass cause it's the hardest (western) rhythm to do and are generally trying to make new sounds and effects using their mouths. How you compare that to some jazz legends who died ages ago is beyond me!bernhardtjeff wrote:yes: tom harrell. in the videos i've seen of john coltrane, he stood still, too. miles davis didn't stand totally still all the time, just kinda wondered around the stage, but didn't bounce around like an idiot. saw jim hall in concert once, too. he sat down the whole time. the list goes on...WTF? Have you heard ANY remotely expressive musician that stood exactly still? all the best performances I've ever seen featured the musician to be all over the place, from grunty metal screamers to violinists...
are you serious? i always thought they did it because it's one of the easiest to do! i guess this difference of opinion indicates where this discussion will head...I mean, great beatboxers mainly do Drum n' Bass cause it's the hardest (western) rhythm to do
well, i don't know why. chase asked, "Have you heard ANY remotely expressive musician that stood exactly still?" and as miles davis, et al, we/are expressive musicians and stood more or less still compared to beatboxers, i felt they were appropriate to name (granted, he did say "EXACTLY still," but since i exaggerated in the first place, i thought i could stretch it a bit). further, he indicated that my choices were not necessarily limited to genres similar to beatboxing by adding "from grunty metal screamers to violinists." would you like to rephase the question more specifically for him?How you compare that to some jazz legends who died ages ago is beyond me!
yes, yes, i know that. of course they're different atmospheres, and beatboxing has it's place... it's just that it's a place i find pretty boring. sorry...Beatboxing is mainly done in clubs where the aim is to get people jumping and dancing, not to sit down by a table, while having a beer and watch the performer.
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