Madonna in partnership with Antares?

[stefancrs]

People have been correcting pitch since the 70's. If pitch correction bothers you then toss your music collection, all the way back to Pink Floyd and Christopher Cross.

Christopher Cross
Is that the guy behind these famous words?
"McDaddy will make you: Jump! Jump!"

I like the idea that ANYONE has got any 'Christopher Cross' in their 'collection'

Elaborate. Please

[JeffSanders]

Sheesh. Even Opeth tunes their vocals. Let's not live in a fantasy world.

[snooky]

touche.

... and don't be offering ya Chinese to me either

out of curiousity, I wonder what you mean by that..I've been pondering about it a while now...
(perhaps it's not any of my bussynes)

[Manc Chris]

People have been correcting pitch since the 70's. If pitch correction bothers you then toss your music collection, all the way back to Pink Floyd and Christopher Cross.

Christopher Cross
Is that the guy behind these famous words?
"McDaddy will make you: Jump! Jump!"

I like the idea that ANYONE has got any 'Christopher Cross' in their 'collection'

Elaborate. Please

Er, Christopher Cross is shite.

Do ya?

[jmh]

So, autotuning the bejesus out of the vocals is now creative?

So quantizing notes to sixteenths is creative?

Exactly - it ain't

At least the direction is now the Cher effect...

I'm just sayin that people aren't sittin here bitchin about all the people that are quantizing their drums or using "groove templates" which are doing the same type of correction that autotune is.

Quantizing is considered ok, but autotuning isn't. Seems like a double standard.

Actually they are - something along the lines "rigidly quantized" is mentioned very often...

And neither is creative 'as is'.

Anyways, at least earlier I thought that the point was the blatant overuse of the technology and my remark was towards that, and it still stands - there's really nothing creative whatsoever about using a dated effect especially so soon after it was 'a big thing'.

Kind of sums up my thoughts on Madonna actually - rehashing 'new things' slightly after they've made their way to the public anyways. And doing it badly in the process.

And then the ignorant masses (that's where the money is) call that artistry, talent, 'being hip', creative... sigh. To me, she's a product, one that still hasn't even learned to sing properly after all these years (autotuning or no), riding on other peoples' talents, becoming an icon in the process. The good old "anything to gain attention", not even taken to a direction reaching anything original, never was and never will.

Pop at its best&worst simultaneously. I guess that's a merit in itself.

(Ray of light is still an amazing record though, I can only dream of what a marvellous experience it would have been with a decent singer (and without that one crap indian or whatever piece of garbage track stuck in the middle of otherwise excellent pieces!))

JMH

[Alan]

What about the Steinberg connection?

you mean the Chasity Belt/Dongle metaphor?

[stefancrs]

People have been correcting pitch since the 70's. If pitch correction bothers you then toss your music collection, all the way back to Pink Floyd and Christopher Cross.

Christopher Cross
Is that the guy behind these famous words?
"McDaddy will make you: Jump! Jump!"

I like the idea that ANYONE has got any 'Christopher Cross' in their 'collection'

Elaborate. Please

Er, Christopher Cross is shite.

Do ya?

Jump Jump? Hell yes!
I loved how Christopher Cross had his pants on backwards!

[Manc Chris]

Saying that though, THIS Chris Cross is most certainly not shite ..

[Kriminal]

Saying that though, THIS Kris Kross is most certainly not shite ..

[Manc Chris]

Saying that though, THIS Kris Kross is most certainly not shite ..

Yes indeed, even those two are better than ... him.

[Manc Chris]

In fact ...even my old band had a better one .... ( )