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emdot_ambient · Post by **emdot_ambient** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:02 pm

I loved the show but . . . yeah, that troll in the background was disturbing, all the more so because I realize how easily I could affect that look.

Reverse Engineer · Post by **Reverse Engineer** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:05 pm

lex_strooder wrote:
Lovesign wrote:I am so glad so many people here are getting off on this

Out of interest, does anyone know how to convert the WMV file so it can be played on a Mac ? A friend of mine is gagging to see this.
I havent tried it but I think it works.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/window ... fault.aspx

cheers

EDIT: arghrgrh... Reverse Engineer won the google race

and offered an alternative :smug:

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:59 pm

Lovesign wrote:I am so glad so many people here are getting off on this

This is what I really appreciate about KVR -- exposure to obscure yet interesting aspects about music, and a community of people who share an appreciation for the esoteric. Thanks for the link. Great stuff.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:32 pm

Immensely cool video. Thanks for sharing the link.

zeoy · Post by **zeoy** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:45 am

emdot_ambient wrote:I loved the show but . . . yeah, that troll in the background was disturbing, all the more so because I realize how easily I could affect that look.

Looks like he could be Vurt's grandpa ...

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:31 pm

zeoy wrote:
Looks like he could be Vurt's grandpa ...

indeed i am the lovechild of the radiophonic orchestra

adydub · Post by **adydub** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:47 pm

DL'ing now. Thanks for posting this Lovesign.

I also remember seeing a fantastic BBC Horizon documentary on electronic music featuring Wendy Carlos, the Radiophonic workshop in the 80's, IRCAM modelling a virtual soprano, reducing etc.

I'd love to see that again, but i wouldn't know where to start in tracking it down.

hollowsun · Post by **hollowsun** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:11 am

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/whitefiles/b ... /a_toc.htm

Very comprehensive history of the Radiophonic Workshop from 'the inside'.

Also this - a history of the Dr Who theme:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepage ... WTheme.htm

Along with Louis and Bebe Barron (who created the 'tonalities' for the 50s film "Forbidden Planet"), the RW did more than anyone in establishing 'mainstream' electronic music by putting it in our front rooms before synths were even really invented!

RIP RW!!!

Steve

ross g · Post by **ross g** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:20 am

i like the video too! it's cool how they used the minimal studio gear to OD the Dr. Who theme and other melodic stuff, i've only heard the avante garde stuff, the musique concret and such done like that...

hollowsun wrote: Along with Louis and Bebe Barron (who created the 'tonalities' for the 50s film "Forbidden Planet"), the RW did more than anyone in establishing 'mainstream' electronic music by putting it in our front rooms before synths were even really invented!

i remember reading that the Barrons built an electronic sound producing machine, a one of a kind (couldn't find info), and they they used it as their main sound source, drastically sped up/slowed down, layered, etc...i believe it's what they used for the "Forbidden Planet" soundtrack...

hollowsun · Post by **hollowsun** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:44 am

ross g wrote:i remember reading that the Barrons built an electronic sound producing machine, a one of a kind (couldn't find info), and they they used it as their main sound source, drastically sped up/slowed down, layered, etc...i believe it's what they used for the "Forbidden Planet" soundtrack...

The Barrons would create circuits specifically for the sound they wanted to make at any time. They didn't have a synth or patchable ocsillators, filters, envelopes, etc. - they would just build whatever it was they wanted. Then they'd use tape splicing and manipulation techniques.

Their circuitry was quite unstable too but they liked that as it added to the sense of chance and it gace the circuits a certain 'organic' quality.

Bebe is still alive and was active in the scene until just recently.

Steve

Steve

kingtubby · Post by **kingtubby** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:16 pm

Just watched it...Fascinating.
Some interesting and valid points expressed about technological complexity overtaking creativity too...

Mart.

paradiddle · Post by **paradiddle** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:49 pm

Thanks for the link lovesign. This is great. I love thoses 50s sounds. The way they were doing songs with tapes is trully amazing.

A bit where I laughed a lot is where we see a movie or tv scene of a guy running and getting shot. Just the look on his face!

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From wikipedia about Delia "Ron Grainer was so amazed by her rendition of his original theme (dr who) that he attempted to get her a co-composer credit, but this was prevented by BBC bureaucracy."

Found this also apparantly is a good album she made:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Noise_%28band%29

Never heard it though probably hard to find a copy of that.

paradiddle · Post by **paradiddle** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:57 pm

You mean when 1 reel moves one way and the next one to it the other way? I noticed that too, quite funny.
A bit of a paradox.

Lovesign wrote: I liked the way the reel to reel kept moving backwards and forwards

Glad you all enjoyed

mystahr · Post by **mystahr** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:08 am

I finally had time to watch this last night. And boy will I be watching this again and again and again. Awesomely inspiring and informative

This quote somehow struck so much that I had to copy it in words as well for myself; it's on how they saw the ending of the golden era of the workshop:

The point where the desires of the creator are greater then the technology which is available. There comes a moment where the technology gets closer and closer to the sort of imagination-creativity of the writer. And in the end if you're not careful it overtakes and suddenly serendipity (which before was from your own sweat and blood but you created something you thought goodness me that was great) comes by saying if I press one of these 379 buttons of this synthesizer maybe I get something out of it. Now that moment the machinery is driving the creativity and the creativity is not driving the machinery. And maybe that's where the golden age stops, maybe

I find myself often trying to go backwards in time finding that very same moment and explore its outer boundaries

For anyone with the slightest interest in electronic music..