Too late: they're rigging elections now.moseslawn wrote:OK make that the Christian-right out of the White House. Ha.
Someone Explain David Bowie to me
- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
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- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
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- KVRist
- 453 posts since 20 Aug, 2004 from Falls Church, VA
No offense taken at all. I was just trying to clarify due to the international nature of this forum. And lol on your "voting the Christian right out of the White House." 
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- KVRAF
- 4056 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Hamilton, New Zealand
That's David Bowie with 80's hair + leotards. Now don't get me wrong, but you said you want your girl to stay *straight*? You may be pushing it there-androidlove wrote:i just ordered a copy of labyrinth on vhs. i'm hopin it'll scare my 5yr old girl straightdoes this help you?
yes, the world should fear god and america, which are one in the same
- KVRAF
- 9220 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN
If going to church makes Dubya a Christian, does going into my garage make me a car?moseslawn wrote:OK make that the Christian-right out of the White House. Ha.
From what I've seen of him, it should work that way at least
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A spectral heretic...
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- KVRAF
- 1617 posts since 19 Mar, 2002 from Victoria, BC
Depends, when you go into your garage do the garage patrons (tools and stuff maybe
) insist that being a car is not only the best, but absolutely essential if you don't want to endure an eternity of pain and suffering after death?
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- KVRist
- 453 posts since 20 Aug, 2004 from Falls Church, VA
Great analogy. And I say that as a Christian. Saw NARNIA today, and I couldn't help but think that a few more years of the "Religious Right," and America will feel a lot like Narnia under the White Witch... which, of course, would be terribly ironic, given what the White Witch represents.ew wrote:If going to church makes Dubya a Christian, does going into my garage make me a car?moseslawn wrote:OK make that the Christian-right out of the White House. Ha.
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- KVRAF
- 1817 posts since 1 Jun, 2003
manifest destiny actually has a highly religious connotation... i don't think it's an alternative approach at all.ccollinsmith wrote:You are dead-on right that many of the people who do try to justify it through Christianity. (Others try to justify it through a more secular notion of "Manifest Destiny").moseslawn wrote:The prevailing and dominant(unfortunately) American notion that the U.S. is the centre of the universe, entitled to rule the world, even own the moon, etc... all somehow justified through Christianity.
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- KVRAF
- 2135 posts since 12 Jul, 2004 from Brave New World
sure, but historically its been used to unite peoples of various social, ethnic and religious backgrounds for the common cause of US imperialism. while having religious connotations, its often described as being non-denominational (afterall, no REAL American doesn't believe in God), therefore can be made equally appealing to Catholics, Jews, Protestants, Mormons, Muslims and Scientologists.
"Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together...." -Carl Zwanzig
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- KVRAF
- 2135 posts since 12 Jul, 2004 from Brave New World
and for the record Ziggy Stardust is a brilliant album.
"Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together...." -Carl Zwanzig
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- KVRAF
- 3588 posts since 13 May, 2004 from montreal
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- KVRist
- 453 posts since 20 Aug, 2004 from Falls Church, VA
Yes. Ziggy Stardust IS a brilliant album. 
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- KVRist
- 453 posts since 20 Aug, 2004 from Falls Church, VA
fabi wrote:manifest destiny actually has a highly religious connotation... i don't think it's an alternative approach at all.ccollinsmith wrote:You are dead-on right that many of the people who do try to justify it through Christianity. (Others try to justify it through a more secular notion of "Manifest Destiny").
Though Manifest Destiny probably descends from the Puritans' notion of creating the "New Jerusalem" in America, Manifest Destiny itself is - as intel mentioned - a notion that is accessible to people regardless of religion. It is a secularized form of messianic imperialism. And in actuality, the imperialistic impulse behind Manifest Destiny long predates any form of Christianity.
- KVRAF
- 2818 posts since 30 Aug, 2001 from where dinosaurs are still alive
Bowie, another uk mistery
top notch wifey, though.
I re-discovered him after the vision of "Steve Zissou and the life aquatic", where Brazilian artist Seu Jorge plays his tunes in portuguese. even the duke can't beat that.
top notch wifey, though.
I re-discovered him after the vision of "Steve Zissou and the life aquatic", where Brazilian artist Seu Jorge plays his tunes in portuguese. even the duke can't beat that.
