MXR Phase 90 VST

[Hink]

Anyone who wouldn't drool over owning one of these is out of their minds..



No nostalgia about it, some of the old shit still rules.

then I'm out of mind...yeah at the time that was cool....but I hate hiss...there's better options...I wouldn't buy one, let alone drool over it...in fact the only thing that makes me drool is novocaine...

[Sickle]

then I'm out of mind...

Glad that's settled, then..

[Tony Ostinato]

I saw the space echo on tv 3 times last week. I am very much looking forward to the uad-1 version.

Theres a reason why every major recording studio in the world has an 1176 and a la-2a.

I dont think we are talking about someone looking for any phase shifter at all i think hes very specific about the exact sound he wants, thats a good thing.

another thing you could try but good luck finding it is the very very very old vintage power pack, it had a very good bi-phase.

furthermore be sure and check out the simulanalog site.

http://www.simulanalog.org/guitarsuite.htm

[Hink]

then I'm out of mind...

Glad that's settled, then..

remember (maybe you didn't know though) I use to put 8NEFX on my guitars...

[Hink]

Theres a reason why every major recording studio in the world has an 1176 and a la-2a.

yup, the reason is there wasn't much compition...

[antti]

exactly how close to the original did you get? Or is this simply an experiment that was named after it because they both do the same thing?

I have no idea how close it is, on account of never having had real MXR Phaser. I simply modelled the MXR Phase 90 schematic at geofex.net.

[deaf dunderkwac]

Theres a reason why every major recording studio in the world has an 1176 and a la-2a.

yup, the reason is there wasn't much compition...

[Squids]

I still want to know if anyone remembers the maestro phase shifter

Oh, yes of course! That's another great one. Put a Pianet through two of those and you've got John Paul Jones from Houses of the Holy. No Quarter? Cool sounding phaser. I have one of those still in my collection. It needs to be modeled.

Sickle, the Space Echo rules. A lot of the Boss and Roland effects were great from that time. Dimension D and their rackmount Phaser were also good. I used that have that rack phaser (had CV control of the rate and depth too I believe!). Don't have it anymore but I do have a Dimension D. An engineer's secret weapon. Stomp boxes are in general really (vintage stomp boxes anyway).

Confirmed on my thoughts about the vintage Phase 90 vs. the new one. I think this could be the case for a lot of vintage pedals vs. reissue. It depends which though. The old Thomas Organ Cry Baby and Vox Wah sound totally different from the new Cry Baby wahs. I LOVE LOVE LOVE my Vox Wah. It sounds incredible. I'd never sell it.

[opia]

exactly how close to the original did you get? Or is this simply an experiment that was named after it because they both do the same thing?

I have no idea how close it is, on account of never having had real MXR Phaser. I simply modelled the MXR Phase 90 schematic at geofex.net.

wow
I wasn't realy expecting you to answer personally here
just droppin a hint
thanks for satisfying my curiosity tho


sort of

[Tony Ostinato]

If its modelled on the original components it coud be good, ill have to try it also.


BTW heres some stuff on the space echo:

Copy from UA AES NY Newsletter from '05:

Roland RE-201 Space Echo
Tape Echo & Spring Reverb

In 1973, Roland created the Space Echo system that utilized multiple play heads to create warm, highly adjustable echo effects, which added wonderful tape character and chaos to performances and recordings. The Space Echo can be heard on numerous recordings, from 70’s space rock like Pink Floyd and David Bowie, to countless Reggae and Dub albums, to more recent electronic and electronic-crossover bands like Portishead and Radiohead. Universal Audio has been entrusted by Roland to re-create the highly beloved RE-201 unit, considered the best of the Space Echo line. Our team spent over a year developing our RE-201 Space Echo, which truly captures the physical behaviour of this complex device “warts and all”, down to the distortion, wow and flutter, pitch shifting, and warmth that tape based delays are famous for; but our plug-in goes even further, capturing the complex self-oscillation that makes the Space Echo more than an effect, but a unique instrument unto itself.

UA’s RE-201 Space Echo faithfully retains all the controls and features of the original, such as the Mode Selector for various head combinations, Repeat Rate for fine timing control, and Intensity which sets repeat count and allows the unit achieve self-oscillation. The all-important Echo/Normal “Dub” switch is retained for muting, as well as the tone controls. Last but certainly not least, the atmospheric shimmer of the Space Echo’s spring reverb is faithfully captured, putting this fantastic plug-in on par with the original unit as a tool of infinite creativity. Our emulation also adds substantial “digital only” features like host Tempo Sync, Output Volume, Echo and Reverb Pan, plus a clever Tape Select switch which allows the user to select between three distinct grades of tape loop quality, new, used and distressed. Taking it a step further, we also added a unique “Splice” switch that allows the user to trigger the musical sound of the selected tape loop’s splice at will, for additional creative control.


• Meticulous model of original Roland RE-201 Space Echo
• Tape echo modeling, complete with saturation, wow & flutter, and splice
• Incredible tape oscillation effects and spring reverb emulation
• Entrusted by Roland for accurate analog modeling
• Original features like Mode Selector, Intensity and “Dub” switch
• Digital only features like tempo sync, effects pan, and tape select
• Tape loops modeled from original Roland tape loops
• User selectable tape loops from New to Distressed
• Spring modeled from the commonly updated “Accutronics” tank

[Sickle]

Probably my most missed piece of gear..(RE-201) I traded mine in exchange for like 3 months rent at a buddy's place while I was building a Tattoo shop in Miami and was completely broke..

[GreyLion]

Hey, Hink,

There IS a difference between Cokes, if you're buying the Mexican ones. They still use cane sugar, whereas the US Coke uses corn syrup. Which just doesn't have the 'burn'. See: http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib ... xcoke.html

Every now and then, I'll get a Mexican Coke and remember how much better Real Coke can be.

Likewise, every now and then, I'll pull an old pedal out of the box, like my original, noisy Big Muff Pi. Run it through my Blackface Deluxe reverb and an old Tokai Strat. And it still kicks ass. And I remember why I started making music to begin with....

Haven't ever gotten that sound out of my computer, no matter how much I love the new technology.

Take care,

GreyLion
(Climbs laboriously onto dinosaur, lumbers off into the sunset....)

[Hink]

Hey, Hink,

There IS a difference between Cokes, if you're buying the Mexican ones. They still use cane sugar, whereas the US Coke uses corn syrup. Which just doesn't have the 'burn'. See: http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib ... xcoke.html

Every now and then, I'll get a Mexican Coke and remember how much better Real Coke can be.

Likewise, every now and then, I'll pull an old pedal out of the box, like my original, noisy Big Muff Pi. Run it through my Blackface Deluxe reverb and an old Tokai Strat. And it still kicks ass. And I remember why I started making music to begin with....

Haven't ever gotten that sound out of my computer, no matter how much I love the new technology.

Take care,

GreyLion
(Climbs laboriously onto dinosaur, lumbers off into the sunset....)

well it's true, you learn something new everyday, I know that coke use to come in soda and as a syrup....in fact many thought the syrup to ease stomach distress...

as for the big muff, like the coke that is a matter of taste...I'm sorry but I will never regret the day mine went out the window...but please keep in mind, it wasn't just because of how cheap EH was but even more so that I don't like fuzz...I learned young that some 12ax7s hit with a pre-amp gave a better, more manageable distortion then fuzz...but I wish I could time warp back to those days when we all put down EH. Whether I liked it or not (and no one I knew did) had I known that somehow they would become vintage I would of bought up a warehouse full...

[GreyLion]

Yeah, lotta stuff I'd'a bought back then, if only I knew... Old Ibanez TubeScreamers, for instance.

My daughter gave me a Digitech Bad Monkey for Xmas this year. Cheapo pedal, supposed to have the TubeScreamer vibe. Haven't had a chance to really wring it out yet, but I absolutely love the smooth, juicy, articulated overdrive it gives me so far. Much better than pedals costing three or four times as much, IMHO, as far as dialing up that bluesy classic rock tone, while still keeping chords clear and intelligible.

I never met a solid-state amp that I liked, (yeah, I know that's at least partly psychological) so I agree with you about pushing the tubes, and this one pleases me a lot when it does that. I suspect I'll play through it a LOT.

But every now and then, you just gotta make a rude, crude noise, try (unsuccessfully) to call up the spirit of Hendrix, and the Big Muff will be there for that.

[bongo_x]

i gotta say, it's a pet peeve of mine that people name plugins after after actual hardware, and then if you ask if it sounds like the real thing, or god forbid suggest that it doesn't, guys come out of the woodwork shouting "who cares, do you like it".

I think everyone can figure out if they like it, that's not the question. why name it that if it's not supposed to be compared to the original?

if you go see an AC/DC tribute band and they sound like Linkin Park doing AC/DC songs is it reasonable to say "who cares, do you think they are a good band"? if they're not going to sound like AC/DC then they should not say it and call themselves "Lucifer's Chainsaw" or something.

how many of you would go see a Britney Spears impersonator who turns out to be a 40 year old man and say "that's cool, he seems nice anyway". even though he would probably sing better.

there are people charging big bucks for emulations that don't sound anything like the real thing. they are using the name of the original gear to make money. I suggest they could be sued for false advertising. now THAT would be funny.