KVR Audio

marcouk · Post by **marcouk** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:58 am

blortblort wrote:OnePingOnly (fx version beta 2)

oh dear. You could almost see everyone else looking at this thread and thinking "I must type One ping only" and then - "No, that joke is so old now I'll look like a tw*t".

Still. There's always one.

wigworld · Post by **wigworld** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:22 am

It's definaitely formant shifting. You could do it with V-Vocal (which wasn't around when the track was released), but it was most likely done originally with Roland Variphraze technology (Varios or VP9000).
http://www.sfu.ca/sonic-studio/handbook/Formant.html

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:31 pm

BobYordan wrote:Sound like the formant changes to me.

This might possible to do in Melodyne.

Depends of if the formant changes just between the
notes or also on the notes. Might be possible to split a note in Melodyne and make a formant change
of the 2 halfs???

Well I listened to it one more time and it could be that the format changes occures between the phrases.
The are many phrases that occures rapidly so that gives the impression of a flow. Analog with looking at a movie, that are really frames on the film.

I dont know what tool they used on the Madonna song, though? Might be some kind of auto formant changer in
a hw effect world??

Cheers Bob

Okay, this gets me closer to understanding how it might have been done. I have access to Melodyne 3 but have never used it, so I might take a closer look at it. I hadn't thought about "on" versus "between" the phrases. I'll have to listen to it again. Thanks.

greendoor · Post by **greendoor** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:48 am

I saw a clip of her pulling that effect off live at a Tower Records appearance in Los Angeles. My assumption was that she used TC Helicons VoicePrism Plus.

Anytime I see Madonna 'live', I assume she's lip-syncing...

On a pre-recorded track in Cubase SX - just apply the pitch shift alogortithm, and draw a curve so it gradually descends to -12 semitones over the length of the sample.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:09 pm

greendoor wrote:
I saw a clip of her pulling that effect off live at a Tower Records appearance in Los Angeles. My assumption was that she used TC Helicons VoicePrism Plus.
Anytime I see Madonna 'live', I assume she's lip-syncing...

On a pre-recorded track in Cubase SX - just apply the pitch shift alogortithm, and draw a curve so it gradually descends to -12 semitones over the length of the sample.

Its *possible* she was lip syncing that song, but she followed it up with a very live, very impromptu rendition of Like a Virgin, which she hadn't performed in years. She couldn't remember the words, and the audience had to help her along. Pretty funny.

waiting man · Post by **waiting man** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:41 pm

Miss Ciccone's not golfing in hollywood anymore?

gareth_fx · Post by **gareth_fx** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:58 pm

Eventides orvilles/h8000's or Kyma both do pitchshifting with formant shaping.

both would achieve the same result but theres a myriad of other stuff to , Speed from soundtoys , melodyne could be anything really.

Its not a hard effect to achieve, personally I think it sounds pretty tacky.....

GFX

HoChi · Post by **HoChi** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:41 pm

it was done with a kyma

Bonteburg · Post by **Bonteburg** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:55 pm

oxbee wrote:I just hate this kind of demonstrative use of technology in music. It's far more impressing when it's a subtle use I think.

I think it's a damn cool breakdown actually (I don't think it's state of the art either you could pull it off with any sampler if you chop up the speech bit).

Marco

Sidhu · Post by **Sidhu** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:06 pm

Yuck! is this what they paid millions to do????

Madonna's Hollywood pitch change