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Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:31 pm

Heh, we were, until I decided to take a breath and check a few other threads.

Now I'm off to home and then to "Tasteless Comedy" night at Yuk-Yuk's comedy club. Might sneak in a forum visit before I step out the door.

This writing at the same time thing is adding an "edited 1 time" at the bottom of all my posts because I almost always press "submit" before realizing that I had a bit more to say or a different way of saying it!

Greg

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:45 pm

~BURNY~ wrote:Some tests with the "pride" file. I don't consider it to be good but ok...
The main difference is it doesn't have that "scratchy" sound if you see what I mean.
http://www.mytempdir.com/381993

Yes, but you confuse an amp sim with a multi fx with cab.
To me it does not sound like a amp. Sorry...

That is not the goal I think.
Listen to this please
http://www.mytempdir.com/382273
not good but has amp caracter, if you hear what I mean.

Anyway, high gain is more fun,
but something like this:
http://www.thdelectronics.com/soundclips/UniValve3.mp3
would also be a big challenge.

championrabbit · Post by **championrabbit** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:00 pm

Midiworks wrote: To me it does not sound like a amp. Sorry...

To me it sounds like an amp, particularly the edgy and drive settings.

You don't play the guitar though, right?

chrishurley · Post by **chrishurley** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:00 am

the clips sure got pulled quickly... wtf.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:32 am

~BURNY~ wrote:Yep, that one...

Happy I allready ordered it.

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:32 am

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zeoy wrote:(Mix but left chanel is almost dry here)
http://www.thdelectronics.com/soundclips/BiV-6550-1.mp3

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Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:37 am

Btw, the reason why quite some people are still using Marshalls for their high gain tones seems to be that they are working exceptionally well with the mentioned "helpers". You can put almost every halfway proper drive/boost pedal in front of them and the sound will be fine (just listen to Tom Morello...).

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:11 am

Fair enough. SRV and his Bassmans wouldn't sound the same without the Tube Screamer. <shrug>

No shame in whatever signal path it all takes, as long as the end result works. With a soft sim you'd ideally either have the pedal simmed as well, use a real pedal, or simply use the benefit of software vs. hardware in order to achieve the same end goal.

Greg

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:42 am

chrishurley wrote:the clips sure got pulled quickly... wtf.

Check PM.
Too much trafic.

G&L_player · Post by **G&L_player** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:47 am

Lunch Money wrote:Fair enough. SRV and his Bassmans wouldn't sound the same without the Tube Screamer.

Greg

With an amp as clean as a Bassman, the pedal itself, will surely be featured. I believe the idea in this instance, is to start as clean as it gets, and dirty it up, yeah?

Midiworks · Post by **Midiworks** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:34 am

Hope this list makes it easier to listen:

5150 Model
1st part is Vervil dry take over Midiwork amp.
2nd part is Matt on 5150 with Mesa cab.

http://www.soundspectral.com/Demos/5150 ... p_Matt.mp3
(Pan full left or right for mono)

Other heavy models

http://www.soundspectral.com/guess_amp.mp3

http://www.soundspectral.com/guess_amp2.mp3

Your XmasTube demos

Dushan
http://www.milking-rosewood.com/mp3/Dus ... _Demo1.mp3
with EQ and some master compression
http://www.milking-rosewood.com/mp3/Dus ... emo2EQ.mp3

dimitar
http://www.cmusicforum.com/dimitar/X-MasAMP_Dimitar.mp3

AndrewSimon
http://www.andras-shimon.com/MUSIC/DarkVintage.mp3

agentdark1
http://www.rajiv.lutchman.net/mp3/roots.mp3

Wilkoryte
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/wilkoryte/xmas.mp3

chrishurley
http://annex.ax84.com/home123005a.mp3
http://annex.ax84.com/home123005b.mp3
("less bass and more tops")

FRitzman
http://www.fritzmetal.de/biff/fritzman_ ... _Tubey.mp3

cheul
3 flavors (different low-ends) :
http://killbenonline.free.fr/Toxicity2.mp3
http://killbenonline.free.fr/Toxicity3.mp3
http://killbenonline.free.fr/Toxicity4.mp

Thanks guys !!!

zeoy · Post by **zeoy** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:26 am

Hi guys, I am on a dial-up for now so can't listen nor upload anything. So cant comment what Rene did to my clips.
However I want to note that you can't judge the sound of the raw clips since almost all guitars sound terrible when recorded DI.
The guitar I used here is a Tokai Vintage AST56 which is a replica of a vintage Strat (SRV himself used Tokais at some period). First time I (and many other musicians) heard this guitar through a good tube amp (Plexi) our jaws dropped to the floor.
Anyways. I ll try to take the same clips and see what I can do with them using ampsims or will play the same thing with the same guitar through my Bravo.

PS1 @Rene: didn't expect to make the clips sound the same as the THD amps. Just in the same ballpark.
PS2 @Fritz: thanx about the clarification about what was terrible or worse
PS3 @everybody: I agree that in clean tones the guitar and the guitarist play a major role but don't underestimate the contribution of the amp. Had various guitars that I considered lifeless and changed my mind when I heard them through some old Marshall monsters

fritzman · Post by **fritzman** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:11 am

zeoy wrote: PS3 @everybody: I agree that in clean tones the guitar and the guitarist play a major role but don't underestimate the contribution of the amp. Had various guitars that I considered lifeless and changed my mind when I heard them through some old Marshall monsters

All these factors play a vital role and if anybody doesn't know what to get from which factor it's a lost guessing game. This is true for all kind of sounds, also with the most heavy overdriven tones. This surely needs some experience and/or experiments with these factors. If you don't have a lot of experience you will need a lot of experiments to get what you want. This is what we see here obviously. But hey, we've got time.

All the best, FRitz

chrishurley · Post by **chrishurley** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:38 pm

dead link: http://www.fritzmetal.de/biff/fritzman_ ... _Tubey.mp3

fritzman · Post by **fritzman** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:46 pm

chrishurley wrote:dead link: http://www.fritzmetal.de/biff/fritzman_ ... _Tubey.mp3

Yes.

Guitar players, The soundclick MP3 demo page got updated !