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Lunch Money wrote: Fritz-- that's pretty much what I was getting at; however, not to add a distorted track to a high-gain amp, but rather to use the clean version on an additional high-gain amp.

Greg
OK Greg,

I'll see what I could come up with.


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Midiworks wrote:
fritzman wrote:Now listen to this and try to make THAT crunch sound!

crunch_guitars_fritzman.mp3

Again: Which amp?
Thats not a real challenge...
This one from Killvehicle is:
http://www.soundspectral.com/Demos/challenge.mp3
Nö, I don't like that one. So no challenge in my eyes. :shrug:

Midiworks wrote:But if you want, send the dry DI take and 1 track of the stand-alone amp recording.
:D
Yep, that would be interesting indeed. Please check your PM in a few minutes. Just have to write the PM with the download details.


Best wishes, FRitz
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fritzman wrote: Nö, I don't like that one. So no challenge in my eyes. :shrug:
To get that breathing air from a sim THAT is the challenge. :love: :wink:
Midiworks wrote:But if you want, send the dry DI take and 1 track of the stand-alone amp recording.
:D
Yep, that would be interesting indeed. Please check your PM in a few minutes. Just have to write the PM with the download details.
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fritzman wrote:
Lunch Money wrote: Fritz-- that's pretty much what I was getting at; however, not to add a distorted track to a high-gain amp, but rather to use the clean version on an additional high-gain amp.

Greg
OK Greg,

I'll see what I could come up with.


Best wishes, FRitz
Sorry,

I wasn't able to come up quickly with a good high gain sound. Got not much time tonite, gotta spend some time with the kids.


All the best, FRitz
In the end will be the word.
Check out some of my music at www.fritzmetal.de

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"Breathing Air" is pretty undesirable when it includes the sound of an amp buzzing.

Come to my apartment which is littered with EMI, plug into any amp sim (from the lowest of the low on up) to get some nice "breathing air" if you like. :hihi:

That doesn't mean the core tone of the challenge clip is that bad-- it's pretty neat, even if it's not my thing. It's just that hum and buzz are things that we're generally trying to avoid, not replicate. Nobody wants to turn up their new CD and instantly start looking for loose wires in their setup because of this humming noise. Indeed, it's this hum in my stupid apartment that's keeping me from recording anything lately because as soon as I hear it I think, "Bah, how can I overcome that stupid hum." (other than moving to a non-basement apartment with no junction box outside the window)

Greg
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Lunch Money wrote:"Breathing Air" is pretty undesirable when it includes the sound of an amp buzzing.
Life is not clean, not perfect, nothing is.
The unexpected makes life, life.

It all adds to the experience of sound
and makes it exiting. :zzz: :hyper: ;)


Sascha Franck wrote:Ok, it's not highgain. Especially in the higher registers. But it's sounding really tight for low end chord stuff. Pretty amazing.
And there's less noise than in, say, Boogex as well.
Sascha, there should be NO noise.
XmasTube is very clean, even with drive full up
and boost on.
Try turn the input between 9-12,
Response to 3-5 o'clock.
Time for a DI I think, it should feel as close as possible to a real amp. ;)
You need to find the right settings for you.
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Well this one is not about replicating sound from any of those clips or bends mentioned in last few pages. It may be really interestin to people that do not have HiQuality guitars although. :)

This is recorded with Yamaha Pacifica 120s that is quite nice for a 150$ guitar, and it is only guitar here that I have down-tuned, in this case to low B. (and has really old set of strings) I was using two instances of Xmass plugin, but version with different, more "usual" cabinet, two guitars left and right, a bit of EQ-ing, because Xmass plugin does not have any EQ, and drums, just to give it a song context. No bass recorded, this is made fast, so maybe drum programming could be better by my standards. Tell what you think?

Well this one is not about replicating sound from any of those clips or bends mentioned in last few pages. It may be really interestin to people that do not have HiQuality guitars although. :)

This is recorded with Yamaha Pacifica 120s that is quite nice for a 150$ guitar, and it is only guitar here that I have down-tuned, in this case to low B. (and has really old set of strings) I was using two instances of Xmass plugin, but version with different, more "usual" cabinet, two guitars left and right, a bit of EQ-ing, because Xmass plugin does not have any EQ, and drums, just to give it a song context. No bass recorded, this is made fast, so maybe drum programming could be better by my standards. Tell what you think?

http://www.milking-rosewood.com/mp3/Dus ... p_LowB.mp3

Very METAL, if that is not obvious from tuning to B.
:shock: :hihi:

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Midiworks wrote: Time for a DI I think ;)
I know. But as I'm getting GR2 in mid of february (when returning home), I won't rush out and buy anything just now, especially since my "usual" soundcard and input console needs are covered well. While I'm not sure about the GR2 software quality, I only heard good things about the controller/audio-interface. That's the main reason I'm getting it for. Should sort my DI box needs just fine, and it should work as well with your amp.

As far as noise goes, of course the thing itself doesn't produce any, but all the guitar dirt is amplified as well, so there's some noise to be sure...
But as said, it's amazingly low.

Too bad I'll have to get away with the mediocre Hi-Z input of my ESI Neon for the next 4 weeks. I was hoping for quite some amp sim fun on the road, but it seems NI is short of Rig Kontrols.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.

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Great. Yes, the drum programming could be more "lively", but the guitar sound is just suiting fine IMO. Mind you, I'm not a metal expert by any means though.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.

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Sascha Franck wrote:But as I'm getting GR2 in mid of february (when returning home), I won't rush out and buy anything just now.
I was hoping for quite some amp sim fun on the road, but it seems NI is short of Rig Kontrols.
I really would not do that Sascha.
Get a POD XT (for the same cash),
it sounds much better and is more fun !
The pedal is high quality and it works also hand in hand with the Variax and that again is great for your gigs, if you get one, one day. ;)
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Vervil wrote:Tell what you think?

http://www.milking-rosewood.com/mp3/Dus ... p_LowB.mp3

Very METAL, if that is not obvious from tuning to B.
:shock: :hihi:
Guitars sound great.
Drums and drumming quite ---
EDIT: Ok, not so nice. :P

:)
Rene
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Midiworks wrote:
Vervil wrote:Tell what you think?

http://www.milking-rosewood.com/mp3/Dus ... p_LowB.mp3

Very METAL, if that is not obvious from tuning to B.
:shock: :hihi:
Guitars sound great.
Drums and drumming quite bad...

:)
Rene
Drums are not bad, they just don't fit the guitar.
It's too "Studio HiFi" with very little room.(sounds thin compare to the guitar)
Guitar sounds good, though I have no experiance with "Hi-Gain" (not my thing)

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Midiworks wrote: I really would not do that Sascha.
Get a POD XT (for the same cash),
it sounds much better and is more fun !
The pedal is high quality and it works also hand in hand with the Variax and that again is great for your gigs, if you get one, one day. ;)
Nah, Rene.
A) I'm getting GR2 for a very nice price (don't ask me why).
B) I like the idea of using a laptop live.
C) Unfortunately I don't like the Variax guitars.

I'm sorted with all my other amp needs, be it simulation stuff (POD, VAmp, GT-5, Soldano preamp with optional RedBox, whatever...) or real amps (Fender The Twin, Boogie Mark IV).

Now it's time for something experimental. Of course, I will need some more or less authentic amp sounds as well, but I'm also planning on some project, using all sorts of weird sounds for my axes. I may even get the MIDI guitar setup back out.
GR2 should be a nice start for this.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.

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Sascha Franck wrote:I'm sorted with all my other amp needs, be it simulation stuff (POD, VAmp, GT-5, Soldano preamp with optional RedBox, whatever...) or real amps (Fender The Twin, Boogie Mark IV).
There really should be a PSA-1 in there too Sascha. :hihi:
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Vervil wrote: http://www.milking-rosewood.com/mp3/Dus ... p_LowB.mp3

Very METAL, if that is not obvious from tuning to B.
:shock: :hihi:
Hey Dushan,

sounds cool. What kinda (old) strings did you use for that? The border to tune downwards for me is C#. C is too wobbly for me, to easily out of tune. And this is with 11-72 strings on a long scale strat. You seem to have only few probs with the loose strings tuningwise ...


All the best, FRitz
In the end will be the word.
Check out some of my music at www.fritzmetal.de

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