Coldplay - Lets Talk, did they get permission from Kraftwerk
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- KVRAF
- 6323 posts since 30 Dec, 2004 from London uk
Anybody notice this is a straight rip of Kraftwerks Computer Love? Even the lead is a Kraftwerk sound 
- KVRAF
- 1729 posts since 17 Jul, 2001 from Milan, Italy
i Heard a song onthe radio, didn't know who the band was , but i noticed a clear "reproduction" of the main theme from "computer love"
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- KVRist
- 462 posts since 31 Jan, 2003
I'm a big fan of kraftwerk and the first time I heared that guitar in the coldplay song well... you can understand...
So young ppl today thinks that the coldplay song is great and probably they'll never know that the beautiful simple melody is not so original... But the problem is not young ppl... they simply doesn't know krafterk, It's normal...
But I must admit that it's a great song... and this probably because "Computer Love" IS a great song.
Is there any note in the cd about kraftwerk? something like: "We thanks Kraftwerk to let us use blah blah..." ? Or Coldplay think taht we are stupid sheep masses (like Ozbourne daughter playing a bad copy of Visage 'fade to grey' ?)
So young ppl today thinks that the coldplay song is great and probably they'll never know that the beautiful simple melody is not so original... But the problem is not young ppl... they simply doesn't know krafterk, It's normal...
But I must admit that it's a great song... and this probably because "Computer Love" IS a great song.
Is there any note in the cd about kraftwerk? something like: "We thanks Kraftwerk to let us use blah blah..." ? Or Coldplay think taht we are stupid sheep masses (like Ozbourne daughter playing a bad copy of Visage 'fade to grey' ?)
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- Banned
- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
if they didnt sample it, which i dont think they did, they prob wont have to pay much for such a small riff, its not like you can copyright a riff, especially as its used in a new context....im just guewssing tho, and care not
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- KVRist
- 462 posts since 31 Jan, 2003
So, Kriminal, I can play well known music simply changing the instruments and lyrics... well I'll be very famous in few months...
Listen computer love... and listen that coldplay song... compare them... It's not only a small riff... It's everything.
I hate this things...
Listen computer love... and listen that coldplay song... compare them... It's not only a small riff... It's everything.
I hate this things...
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- Banned
- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
not quite what i meant, but im sure lots of bands play riff that are used in other songs, there is afte all, only so many notes and combinations to use, and it is possible to write a riff that is the same as another track, even if you have never heard it before....mao wrote:So, Kriminal, I can play well known music simply changing the instruments and lyrics... well I'll be very famous in few months...
sorry, i cant stand the band, i def wont be listening to it by choice, i'll take your word for it.mao wrote: Listen computer love... and listen that coldplay song... compare them... It's not only a small riff... It's everything.
- KVRAF
- 8510 posts since 18 Apr, 2004
Looks like they actually did ask for permission
http://www.ndr2.de/pages_std_lib/0,3325,OID1325456,00.html wrote:Ihr habt, wenn wir richtig informiert sind, einen Brief an Kraftwerk geschickt, in deutsch?
Okay, lass mich erklären: Wir haben einen Song auf dem Album, Track 5, der "Talk" heißt, und dafür nahmen wir die Melodie von Kraftwerks "Computer Love" und haben es in unseren Song gepackt. Wir mussten Ralf also um Erlaubnis bitten. Also haben wir uns gefragt, wie wir darum bitten könnten, ohne als Business-Typen abgestempelt zu werden. Also sagte einer, lass uns ihm schreiben und persönlich erklären, warum wir genau diese Melodie brauchen. Wir haben uns also hingesetzt und einen Brief verfasst, haben sogar noch Fotos beigelegt, so dass es am Ende den Eindruck eines Fanbriefes gemacht hat! Einer im Studio war deutsch, der hat’s übersetzt, und wir konnten es kaum glauben, denn sie sagten: 'Ja, ihr könnt es benutzen!’, womit wir nie gerechnet haben."
- KVRAF
- 8152 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK
it's obviously not a sample cos,like, ones played on a guitar and the other on a synth...

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- KVRAF
- 3002 posts since 24 Nov, 2003 from Heidelberg&Hamburg
I rarely heard a story about a band being more "fair" after using ideas they love. The band asking nicely, Kraftwerk saying "well take it, nice".
Kraftwerk IS known to all young listeners, I would say, mao... At least like other so-called "gods" (Andy Warhol, velvet underground, Madonna, Björk and others in the last years). In Germany Kraftwerk's tour-de-france - album was rather dissed by older DJs on some poshy radio ("Altherrenmucke", old guys' shit) than by younger musicians. I think the "scenes" loved it...
Kraftwerk IS known to all young listeners, I would say, mao... At least like other so-called "gods" (Andy Warhol, velvet underground, Madonna, Björk and others in the last years). In Germany Kraftwerk's tour-de-france - album was rather dissed by older DJs on some poshy radio ("Altherrenmucke", old guys' shit) than by younger musicians. I think the "scenes" loved it...
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- KVRian
- 665 posts since 29 Nov, 2002 from Bury St. Edmunds, England
I heard a radio interview with Coldplay awhile back (around the release time of X&Y) and they said they had asked for permission, in fact Kraftwerk asked for a personally written letter to do so!
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- KVRAF
- 2317 posts since 11 Mar, 2003
That's probably because they haven't got a telephone.in fact Kraftwerk asked for a personally written letter to do so!
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- KVRAF
- 3002 posts since 24 Nov, 2003 from Heidelberg&Hamburg
Mr Arkadin wrote:That's probably because they haven't got a telephone.in fact Kraftwerk asked for a personally written letter to do so!

