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BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:02 am

ITs listed in their announcement but the link to mor einfo ontheir site was busted. Can't get anythign from your link either.

egbert · Post by **egbert** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:28 am

BONES wrote:ITs listed in their announcement but the link to mor einfo ontheir site was busted. Can't get anythign from your link either.

So often the way ain't it: a company gets a splash for their new product on the news page at Harmony Central or they launch it at Namm - you try to follow up on their website - nada. Stoopid.

This probably reflects the clumsy process by which their web pages are generated - eg involving third party developers - the result being that they cannot seem to coordinate a web page update with the actual product launch.

tap · Post by **tap** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:46 am

Listen up cunties.
Its not hardware but the latest in groundbreaking software.
Steinberg have anounced the new VB2 and LM5.

Mr. Tunes · Post by **Mr. Tunes** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:51 am

HanafiH wrote:Korg Radias video at

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=2608#

I think it's going to be a really cool synth. I heard potential in that overcompressed windows media file.

HanafiH · Post by **HanafiH** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:16 am

Mr. Tunes wrote:
HanafiH wrote:Korg Radias video at

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=2608#
I think it's going to be a really cool synth. I heard potential in that overcompressed windows media file.

I want to see what the street price will be before I get all feisty about it. It sounded very Korgish, which I mean as a compliment - a kind of banal perfection - which the Triton does in spades, but I was left wondering just who TF this synth is aimed at.

Korg has a tendency to spend too much money in acheiving that perfection and then charging TF Much on the high street and gets left wondering why the product don't sell. Good signs are the rack-with-a-twist modularity and the recycled panel components from the low end of the range. Bad signs are the indications that it's a PC in a synth tin.

$2000? TF Much, oh lordy, TF Much.

cold c · Post by **cold c** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:04 am

http://www.fenderhellokitty.com/

bambooman · Post by **bambooman** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:21 am

holy moly

i looove crazy stuff like this...

"keyboard+guitar"

bambooman · Post by **bambooman** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:26 am

korg microX also sounds very promising to me
"it comes with turkish ethno instruments"
so just what i am into... "natural instrument sounds"
and it is soooo small, as well.. perfect match

can`t wait for the price .. "they say cheap"..
whatever that`ll be..

bambooman · Post by **bambooman** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:32 am

whoo-haaa... namm06 makes my day !!!!

this is IT ...

at first, i buy this for sure!!!
then.. the other stuff...

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:02 am

The Radias page at www.korg.com is up now. It looks like it could be quite tasty but I think it will be pricey, too.

HanafiH · Post by **HanafiH** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:29 am

BONES wrote:The Radias page at www.korg.com is up now. It looks like it could be quite tasty but I think it will be pricey, too.

Announced list price is $1999 US for the keyboard, and $1899 for the rack. IMHO this is too high. Twist the dealer's arms and bash his head against the counter a bit and you could land Moog Voyager rack for this price, an Alesis Andromeda, top of the range small keyboard Motif and heck even Kurzweil are cutting prices on say the PC1 for this money. I'm not saying anybody would particularly want those synths rather than Radias, but the segment is very busy and the new prices are on the way down. Heck you could get Nord modular or Virus at those prices and still have change for an interesting eBay purchase.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:50 am

Yeah but who pays RRP for anything? That's why I always go to the same store - they will cut the krap and give me their best price straight-up, even on new stuff like this. I expect to get a minimum 25% off retail on anything and ususally around 30%, even on stuff they don't carry and have to get in specially. That would translate to probably Au$3500 as we seem to get ripped off in comparison to you guys over there. That would mean I could probably get one for around $2800 which is still a lot but i couldn't get any of the stuff you mentioned for anywhere near that price.

Radek · Post by **Radek** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:31 pm

HanafiH wrote:
BONES wrote:The Radias page at www.korg.com is up now. It looks like it could be quite tasty but I think it will be pricey, too.
Announced list price is $1999 US for the keyboard, and $1899 for the rack. IMHO this is too high. Twist the dealer's arms and bash his head against the counter a bit and you could land Moog Voyager rack for this price, an Alesis Andromeda, top of the range small keyboard Motif and heck even Kurzweil are cutting prices on say the PC1 for this money. I'm not saying anybody would particularly want those synths rather than Radias, but the segment is very busy and the new prices are on the way down. Heck you could get Nord modular or Virus at those prices and still have change for an interesting eBay purchase.

Radias is intriguing indeed but... it's not anything exceptional. We have the 2006 now and another (with twist or not) VA with somewhat limited polyphony, limited mod matrix (6 position only!?) and subpar DAW intengration (VirusTI is much more advanced) isn't too great achievement.

Look at very old now Pentagon for an example... It's hardly worse than Radias and for sure Korg could make something more sophisticated. Even seven years old Yamaha's fs1r is in many things better than Radias - it can be configured to be 4 oscillator VA per voice for an example. Try that with Radias. I will not compare Radias to such synths like Octopus or Sytrus for obvious reasons.

Cpus/Dsps are very cheap now and any compromise for a hardware dedicated machine should not be acceptable. Look at the MotifESr - it has more raw processing than Radias, needed sample sets to be recorded/prepared (this costs $) and it's selling for less than probably Radias will.

Yeah - I know marketing and that such synth like Riadias will not sell as good as "rompler" but then why all those compromises? 24 voice of polyphony? How many multitimbral parts and insert effects does Radias have? Why its dual oscillators aren't symmetrical? And it's based on the pcm probably so why limit this aspect of this synth to only 64 multisamples and 128 drum sounds?

How poor Radias would be looking when there was Cronox3 (or other today's vst) in a hardware form?

Korg puzzle me now - it has a great things in the Oasys yet its all others offering are poor rehashes from the past. The TR, X50 na microX are all based on tired TritonLE design... At least the micronX is interesting but only because of it has very practical form.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:46 pm

Its intriguing that you are able to make such pronouncements without actually having used the thing. For all you know, and its certainly within the realms of possibility, it could be the most amazing synth of all time. Anyway, I don't look at hardware and software the same because I use them for different things.

BTW, anyone know what the list price for the micro-X is gonna be?

Radek · Post by **Radek** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:16 pm

BONES wrote:Its intriguing that you are able to make such pronouncements without actually having used the thing. For all you know, and its certainly within the realms of possibility, it could be the most amazing synth of all time. Anyway, I don't look at hardware and software the same because I use them for different things.

There are specs on the Korg site already. There is nothing in them what wasn't done before (both in the realms of soft and hard). I'm not saying it will sound bad or whatever. No. But how it's better than Sytrus with its fully flexible modmatrix and far more sophisticated eqs? How it's better than very old Yamaha EX or Fs1r? It'll do some things better for sure but the "most amazing synth of all time"!?

How it does compare to other old synth - the Z1?
(from 9 years ago - Radius doesn't even have that many more polyphony than expanded Z1...)

BONES wrote: BTW, anyone know what the list price for the micro-X is gonna be?

Hopefully less than 600$.

new hardware at NAMM?