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[Midiworks]

Oh, CR my personal troll...

there were many who consider the Fender twin as one of best vintage amps....but we are the people who do not need gobs of distortion and gain to "shred" and for ffs

My words out of your mouth man. I always thougt Rene is doing the drive thing first and the clean next. An amp thing with no Twin or any other clean classicis just no good for me.....

You are thinking right !

Thats what I explaned before Hink, you must have missed that.

[TotcProductions]

WoW! that does sound amazing. WHEN CAN WE HAVE IT!!!

[Hink]

Oh, CR my personal troll...

there were many who consider the Fender twin as one of best vintage amps....but we are the people who do not need gobs of distortion and gain to "shred" and for ffs

My words out of your mouth man. I always thougt Rene is doing the drive thing first and the clean next. An amp thing with no Twin or any other clean classicis just no good for me.....

You are thinking right !
Thats that I explaned before Hink, you must have missed that.

damn shame...too much gain is a crutch....when I learned that I really started to grow...but then when you think about it a fender twin was built to last decades (obviously as there are many black face ones still rockin)....what do you suppose the life on an amp sim is before it becomes obsolete? 2, maybe 3 years?

Of course I grew up when choosing an amp was as much a personal choice as buying a guitar...of course we didn't have pre-sets either so we learned how to achieve the tone.

[championrabbit]

Oh, CR my personal troll...

Prove me wrong: release an ampsim that sounds anything like the amp you are claiming to simulate.

[Midiworks]

Here is the DualRecti clean.
http://www.soundspectral.com/Demos/Dual ... h_noEQ.mp3

and the Carvin clean
channel without EQ, but bright on.
http://www.soundspectral.com/Demos/Carv ... h_noEQ.mp3

5th Twin clean try
http://www.soundspectral.com/Demos/Twin_clean5.mp3

[championrabbit]

Here is the DualRecti clean.
http://www.soundspectral.com/Demos/Dual ... h_noEQ.mp3

and the Carvin clean
channel without EQ, but bright on.
http://www.soundspectral.com/Demos/Carv ... h_noEQ.mp3

5th Twin clean try
http://www.soundspectral.com/Demos/Twin_clean5.mp3

I rest my case.

[Lunch Money]

That doesn't even make sense, CR. He could have posted the best emulation in the entire world, and you could have said "I rest my case." to make it seem like he had failed. Your case isn't rested, is all I mean by "that doesn't make sense."

I am the king of the world. Because I said so. I rest my case.

You see?

[Funkybot]

Not to jump on the CR bandwagon but that Twin attempt sounded off. That thing will almost never distort. You need to really crank the volume on a Twin to ear splitting levels before any kind of crunchy saturation will hit the signal.

Now I've got a modern Fender Twin Amp (not the classic Twin Reverb) which has three channels, a clean, drive, and distortion basically, and that thing will saturate on the clean channel even at relatively low volumes. Midiworks example didn't even quite remind me of that, but then again, that wasn't exactly the kind of lead I'm used to hearing from a Fender amp.

[Midiworks]

that Twin attempt sounded off. That thing will almost never distort. You need to really crank the volume on a Twin to ear splitting levels before any kind of crunchy saturation will hit the signal.

Hm, I am not that happy either yet...
But there was ZERO amp distortion set.
In fact nothing that can distort.
But those PU's have very high output,
they distort by themself.

It would be nice, if you could send a clip please,
that shows me how you think it should sound like.

[championrabbit]

That doesn't even make sense, CR. He could have posted the best emulation in the entire world, and you could have said "I rest my case." to make it seem like he had failed. Your case isn't rested, is all I mean by "that doesn't make sense."

I am the king of the world. Because I said so. I rest my case.

You see?

Well.

That's true to the extent that you consider that anything that I post will be derogatory.

QED.

In reality, if MW posted something that sounded objectively good (in relation to current commercial ampsims) I'd recognize the fact.

MW's samples (particularly the clean ones) sound (subjectively) crap thus far.

If this was a freeware plug I would never have posted in this thread, but it isn't.

[championrabbit]

It would be nice, if you could send a clip please,
that shows me how you think it should sound like.

At every EQ setting?

At one volume setting?

Miked with one mic? (are you even considering the mics?)

Miked by one person? (are you even considering that the person might have no idea what they are doing? Or have a crappy room? Or a crappy pre-amp? Or, or, or?)



Or are you suggesting that once you've heard a Twin at one EQ setting (etc) then you can model it?!?

[Lunch Money]

OK, that's fair enough. If you'd truly give credit where credit is due, then I'm out of line and incorrect. Forgive me. I HAVE assumed that everything you'd post in this thread will be derogatory, but that might just be coincidence of track record, not due to innate intentions.

However, to offer a of my own: a pickup by itself can't distort. When companies talk about "distortion" pickups, they mean high-output. There's no innate distortion in a pickup. If the amp model "cannot" distort, then you're clipping somewhere else.... on the way into the plug-in, within the plug-in, or on the way out of the plug-in.

Greg

[championrabbit]

OK, that's fair enough. If you'd truly give credit where credit is due, then I'm out of line and incorrect. Forgive me. I HAVE assumed that everything you'd post in this thread will be derogatory, but that might just be coincidence of track record, not due to innate intentions.

However, to offer a of my own: a pickup by itself can't distort. When companies talk about "distortion" pickups, they mean high-output. There's no innate distortion in a pickup. If the amp model "cannot" distort, then you're clipping somewhere else.... on the way into the plug-in, within the plug-in, or on the way out of the plug-in.

Greg

I'm absolutely convinced that this thread is (a very clever) hoax.

[Midiworks]

You are sick poor rabbit.
Seek help boy !

Quots from:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... c&start=15
There is more...

championrabbit, yeah, that's right. It should bear the 'Waves' trademark as well to make it through.

Have you considered changing your company name to Wavves or Waaves? Could work...



Or maybe Nneve.

Actually, I was just interested in drawing a comparison when this Waves/SSL plug-in gets released. T3 is not a center mode for Marquis Compressor, but the comparison can be interesting (which may include all sonic-shaping features of Marquis as well, not just T3 mode).

I'm not usually big on emulations, but I can't help buy be interested in this. I'll maybe try your compressor too depending on whether the SSL emulation is usable in Cubase...

Pretty retarded to judge it before hearing it...

Waves suck, and so does SSL.

it's scientifically proven.

No way, Jose!

Waves Trueverb 'guitar room' is the finest of all tiny-room reverbs!

I have a folder-full of evidence to support this claim, and my best friend (who is a Pro record producer of Pro bands in a Pro studio and probably recorded Bon Jovi and Jefferson Starship Troopers or something) said that in Pro studios they don't use real rooms at all, only Waves plugins.

That goes for compressors too apparently.

Anyway, YOU ARE WRONG!

Everything clear now folks ?

[Hink]

Yes Rene, they are....thanx for asking,,,;)