hmmm, how are you supposed to hear ANYTHING quality wise in this sound quality....
I guess I can hear a bit...
waves SSL = convolution?
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Jason Brian Merrill Jason Brian Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=87372
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- KVRAF
- 11386 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Why would it be bad if it's based on convolution? Have you tried TriToneDigital's Hydratone? It is excellent. Probably one of the best eq plugins, at any price.
The only bad thing is that it's a 'static' impulse that doesn't change the dynamics in any way (like analogue would) but then again the SSL has always been famous for it's ultra low noise and transparency.
- bManic
The only bad thing is that it's a 'static' impulse that doesn't change the dynamics in any way (like analogue would) but then again the SSL has always been famous for it's ultra low noise and transparency.
- bManic
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championrabbit championrabbit https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=53166
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- 559 posts since 30 Dec, 2004
Judging by what is said about their guitar amp modelling technique, they seem to be able to sample and recreate without the need for convolution...lord knows how.
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
I think this is great, I like how we're getting all sorts of high quality models to work with, this is excellent for DAW users; gives us a way to compete with higher-end studios.
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championrabbit championrabbit https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=53166
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- 559 posts since 30 Dec, 2004
Well.bduffy wrote:gives us a way to compete with higher-end studios.
It really doesn't, unless you happen to have a Studer 2" and a bespoke live-room and a bespoke listening/control room and tens of great microphones and the ability to track 16-24 tracks simultaniously...
But it certainly isn't all bad news!
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Jason Brian Merrill Jason Brian Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=87372
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i didnt say it was BAD -- but I think a straight on emulation would be much better.bmanic wrote:Why would it be bad if it's based on convolution? Have you tried TriToneDigital's Hydratone? It is excellent. Probably one of the best eq plugins, at any price.
The only bad thing is that it's a 'static' impulse that doesn't change the dynamics in any way (like analogue would) but then again the SSL has always been famous for it's ultra low noise and transparency.
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Lawnmower Of The Damned Lawnmower Of The Damned https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=29783
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- 850 posts since 16 Jun, 2004
Actually, the Liquid Channel uses dynamic convolution, which is patented by Focusrite's business parters at Sintifex.jupiter8 wrote:Ever heard of the Focusrite Liquid Channel?championrabbit wrote:That might work with the EQ (although it'd need a serious library of samples) but it wouldn't work with the compressor.
Excuse all the blood.
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TotcProductions TotcProductions https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6202 - KVRAF
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- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
Well, I'm not trying to insinuate that it "levels the playing field" or anything; but specifically silky-smooth EQ's that don't crap out and the very useful compressor models. I think it helps; my mixes certainly have benefited form the analog-modelling craze, be it free or high-end stuff. I don't feel I'm fighting the cold element as much anymore.championrabbit wrote:Well.bduffy wrote:gives us a way to compete with higher-end studios.
It really doesn't, unless you happen to have a Studer 2" and a bespoke live-room and a bespoke listening/control room and tens of great microphones and the ability to track 16-24 tracks simultaniously...
But it certainly isn't all bad news!
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championrabbit championrabbit https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=53166
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- 559 posts since 30 Dec, 2004
Fancy runnig a few of those on your PC?!Lawnmower Of The Damned wrote:Actually, the Liquid Channel uses dynamic convolution, which is patented by Focusrite's business parters at Sintifex.jupiter8 wrote:Ever heard of the Focusrite Liquid Channel?championrabbit wrote:That might work with the EQ (although it'd need a serious library of samples) but it wouldn't work with the compressor.
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Lawnmower Of The Damned Lawnmower Of The Damned https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=29783
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- 850 posts since 16 Jun, 2004
Fancy paying massive fees to Sintifex for the right to build the plugin? 
Excuse all the blood.
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- KVRAF
- 11386 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Fancy that one instance of equal quality would eat about 95% cpu on an Athlon 64 4800+ ? 
My sintefex FX8000 has 36 Sharc DSP's to do the math and they are not the same cheap ones used in the SCOPE platform. Count from there.
- bManic
My sintefex FX8000 has 36 Sharc DSP's to do the math and they are not the same cheap ones used in the SCOPE platform. Count from there.
- bManic
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- KVRian
- 568 posts since 17 Dec, 2003 from Under the Overtones
fancy that SSL isnt the greatest console, just old with a name .....................................
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- KVRist
- 476 posts since 28 Jun, 2002 from Vancouver, Canada
SSL is great ... more for the bus-compressor than anything from what I've heard. As far as consoles go I'm more of a Euphonix fan, but this plugin should be a nice addition.
I'm more interested in the Universal Audio / AMS Neve deal ... that should produce considerable results.
~MacQ
I'm more interested in the Universal Audio / AMS Neve deal ... that should produce considerable results.
~MacQ
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
