Variable Knee Track Limiters - Please Help

[fgimian]

hello, I'm just looking to compile a list of variable knee peak limiting VST plugins that can be used as inserts (i.e. low latency, under around 100 samples).

So far I know of...

Kjaerhus GPP1
TbT PocketLimiter
PSP VintageWarmer

Do you know any others ? DSP Card VST effects are also of interest to me

Cheers
Fots

[Mr. Tunes]

I'm sure you knew this one but here's a list of 115 Dynamics plugins on kvr: http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mode=re ... t=1&rpp=15

probably very few do exactly what you ask but hey!

[Music Engineer]

hello, I'm just looking to compile a list of variable knee peak limiting VST plugins that can be used as inserts (i.e. low latency, under around 100 samples).

latency in dynamic-plugIns? only, if they work with lookahead, i think. and in this case, the latency equals the lookahead-time - at least, i do it that way

[fgimian]

yep generally the limiter variety work with latency which is the lookahead time. Just looking for plugins which don't have a huge amount of latency, as I'm looking at tracking use.

Cheers
Fots

[Music Engineer]

yep generally the limiter variety work with latency which is the lookahead time. Just looking for plugins which don't have a huge amount of latency, as I'm looking at tracking use.

Cheers
Fots

do you mean, that most dynamic-plugIns have a hidden lookahead? i expect from a plugIn, that - when there is no lookahead parameter - then there is no lookahead, and therefore no latency at all. however, if you are concerned about this, have a look at my free compressor. there you have a clear control about the lookahead time. when it is set to zero, than it is zero. it's not a limiter, but the ratio goes up to 1:20 and the time values go down to zero.

[fgimian]

Oh cool braindoc I'll check it out. With the peak limiters that I have tried, there is a fixed lookahead latency. i.e. it is not manually adjustable. I assume that when it's manually adjustable, the host can not compensate for it ?

The latency is not a severe concern, I was just looking for something with a relatively low latency to be used for tracking. For instance, the Elephant Limiter by Voxengo has 1024 samples of latency which is just far too limited for realtime use, thus I mainly use it for mastering.

Checking out your stuff right now

Cheers
Fots

[fgimian]

Very impressive Braindoc, that's an awesome compressor. I actually prefer it with the look ahead off, it sounds a little more natural like that to me.

Thanks for pointing me to it mate

Cheers
Fots

[Mr. Tunes]

i think for live tracking this is where hardware limiter/compressors excel

[Music Engineer]

I assume that when it's manually adjustable, the host can not compensate for it ?

Cheers
Fots

actually it should be able to do so. from the plugIn point of view, i always inform the host about the new latency value, when it has been changed

The latency is not a severe concern, I was just looking for something with a relatively low latency to be used for tracking.

tracking? what do you mean with it in this context?

Very impressive Braindoc, that's an awesome compressor.

much thanks. it's always a good motivation, when someone actually has some use of my stuff.

[fgimian]

hey braindoc, I use peak limiters for tracking all the time since they are just compressors with a infinity to 1 ratio and a very very short attack. Using the adjustable knee makes it behave a lot more like a compressor rather than a master limiter. The main thing that's awesome about peak limiters is the VERY VERY short attack. I prefer peak limiters on everything that doesn't require transients, e.g. vocals, softly on the master drum buss to clean up all the peaks (same way that a 1176 is used due to its fast attack) and I also sometimes use it for bass and guitars but not quite as often.

Your compressor can do a similar thing with the attack set very low, a lot of compressors I've tried do not provide this functionality i.e. a very very short attack time, which is a shame. The Voxengo Marquis does provide this though

I hope that made sense.

Cheers
Fots

[4tune]

Your compressor can do a similar thing with the attack set very low, a lot of compressors I've tried do not provide this functionality i.e. a very very short attack time, which is a shame. The Voxengo Marquis does provide this though

Neodynium from elemental audio has an attack that goes down to 20 micro secs. It also has an adjustable look ahead time and a built in limiter. May be worth a look for you also..

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1252.html

Edit: on checking though there is no variable knee so might not fit your needs here.

[Music Engineer]

hey braindoc, I use peak limiters for tracking all the time

...but what IS "tracking" in the context of compressors? - i know terms like pitch tracking, partial tracking,...target tracking...but in compressors...?

[martian]

bleh

[Music Engineer]

bleh

ah. very enlightening. ...what else?

[martian]

bleh 2