which one of these reverbs would best suite ENYA's vocals

[DannyZ]

In order to produce enya like vocals you’d need something like super transparent Jim Williams mic preamp other wise you’d have really hard time layering all those 100 plus tracks.

[AVBunyan]

In order to produce enya like vocals you’d need something like super transparent Jim Williams mic preamp other wise you’d have really hard time layering all those 100 plus tracks.

Mercy - Why in the world would one need 100 tracks?

[greendoor]

If you want to make one voice sound like a 100 voice choir, that's the way to do it. When I first heard Enya and Clanard stuff, I though they sounded like choir samples from a synth. Except if you've played much with choir samples, they aren't that subtle and pretty hard to make serious music with. And of course, samples have to come from somwhere to start with.

You can come close with stuff like CloneEnsemble - but you can't beat the real thing. (Of course, you need that voice to start with).

[catinthehat]

and choir samples don't come in Gaelic- at least I don't think so!...

[annode]

Hi annode,

The only plugin that I have is Voxciter . I bought it two years ago and don’t use it any longer so would be cool to get it back into action. Unfortunately, at this point I can’t affort
to buy any other plugin from your list but I still would like to know all your settings so that maybe I can replicate them with some other plugins or I will keep it as a part of my study until I can buy all other plugins.

You tought me few things already. THANKS

Eric.
I looked at both the PSP multitap and the R66 ,but it seems you`d have to own them for you to use my settings.
They both are very unique,and a setting involves more then just what you can duplicate in a common reverb or delay.

Sorry `bout that..I would write it all out but it would be of no use to you Eric.

[annode]

I read the Nicky Ryan artical link earlier on in this thread,and if I remember,he said he has enya sing/record loads of stuff...but I don`t think she actually sings 50-100 tracks of the same parts...I believe they are different parts with various amounts of overdubbing.

[drinelli]

Am I not correct in assuming overdubs means stacking of voices, is this not the same as using many tracks.

[drinelli]

And I ones saw an interwiev with Enya, where she said, she would sing a part 50 to 100 times, and that they used no samples to do that. Though this is some awkward way of putting it, as any sound recorded could be called samples I think.

[Eric Sundance]

Eric.
I looked at both the PSP multitap and the R66 ,but it seems you`d have to own them for you to use my settings.
They both are very unique,and a setting involves more then just what you can duplicate in a common reverb or delay.

Sorry `bout that..I would write it all out but it would be of no use to you Eric

annode,
If it is something that definitely gives this ethereal vocal without loosing intelligibility and definition then I’ll definitely buy these plug ins. I just can’t do it right away so this is why I wanted to keep it as a study case for now. Obviously, there is no point for me just to stare at the numbers. Also, I understand that you put tones of time in to it so I don’t expect you to divulge any secretes…so no bad feelings what so ever. Thanks

[greendoor]

I believe they used 2 x 24 track recorders sync'd together for 48 tracks. I would fully expect that they would record many parts and then bounce down to a single track, and then work on some more parts.

When 24 track machines became standard in the 1970's, you got a lot of those classic 70's harmony parts (Queen, ELO, Eagles, Cars etc). A lot of those were basic three or four part harmonies, possibly tripled tracked, so you were hearing maybe 12 parts at once. Enya/Clannard were simply taking that to a much higher level, which is why you need 50+ tracks to get that sound like a 100 voice choir.

[annode]

Eric.
I looked at both the PSP multitap and the R66 ,but it seems you`d have to own them for you to use my settings.
They both are very unique,and a setting involves more then just what you can duplicate in a common reverb or delay.

Sorry `bout that..I would write it all out but it would be of no use to you Eric

annode,
If it is something that definitely gives this ethereal vocal without loosing intelligibility and definition then I’ll definitely buy these plug ins. I just can’t do it right away so this is why I wanted to keep it as a study case for now. Obviously, there is no point for me just to stare at the numbers. Also, I understand that you put tones of time in to it so I don’t expect you to divulge any secretes…so no bad feelings what so ever. Thanks

Hi Eric.
I assume you heard the before,(dry) and after,(wet) "Lisa Gerrard" vocal I posted back a few pages?

Here I assembled the .fxp vst program files for you;
http://home.comcast.net/~newdabranck/im ... ograms.zip
If you get any of the vst plugs,you can load the appropriate .fxp file into it.

[Eric Sundance]

Thanks a lot. It is very generous and very helpful. I’m also trying to figure out how to use delay before reverb technique. I understand that if you use some delay plug in before reverb then there is no need to touch predelay. But I’m not sure what do you do with all those feedback knobs and other parameters that come with every delay plug in. If you have any tutorials or know of any links with info about it I would really appreciate this.
Thanks very much!!!

BTW Once I heard a track by Lisa Gerrard that was used on CSI Miami…GOODNESS ME It was so beautiful. I wish I knew the title…She is great.

[greendoor]

You can certainly chain plugins to achieve the effect you want. In Cubase SX, for example, I create a Group channel for reverb and use the Sends from the channels I want to apply the reverb. That way you insert the reverb plugin into one of the middle Insert slots, and you adjust it for 100% wet sound. Now - you can apply other insert effects before or after. For example, you can apply a de-esser before it, so sharp esses don't cause excessive reverb spikes. You could apply a compressor, or even distortion, eq or bit reduction.

You could insert two reverbs in series - maybe one is great for Early Reflections, and the next one is greate for long smooth tails.

You could apply a vibrato or chose before or after the reverb for modulation. Or a delay or phaser, or a random filter - basically anything you want.

[jarred_drozd]

how exactly do you use that sir reverb?what file must be loaded?