No, that's what you can tell from the demos posted on the AT2 website...spuddle wrote:That's what you hear through the compression of the audio? Impressive ears there.Guitarjeff wrote:Raphael rocks. The tone is so-so though. Thin in the upper registers. A Les Paul Custom doesn't generally sound that thin. It sounds better before he brings up the volume knob.
Jeff
Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!
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- KVRist
- 172 posts since 10 Oct, 2005
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- KVRAF
- 4878 posts since 13 Jun, 2002 from Montreal
Hey Jeff. The upper range tones did sound thin on the video. I was surprised at that. What I am wondering is if we can blame it on AT2 entirely. Can you tell us what was Raphael was playing out of - Was it a PA or was it a set of active monitors or proper cabs. I couldn't tell from the video. I loved the playing by the way kinda Dimeola meets Henderson.Raphael rocks. The tone is so-so though. Thin in the upper registers. A Les Paul Custom doesn't generally sound that thin. It sounds better before he brings up the volume knob.
Cheers,
Gordon
- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
From the audio picked up by the camera to the compression of the video you aren't getting the full sound of course. You wouldn't no matter what he was playing through. But, you can hear some of the source character of it and you can also see how genuinely excited all the musicians playing in the booth where. These are just a few of tons of killer mini-gigs in the booth where people were playing AT2 for the very first time and loving it.
Also, the drums sound fine and were a good backing for the jams. So, I am glad we did it (even if I didn't get the chance to hook it up to Studiophonik like I wanted).
Hope you like my Stomp IO vid! By the way, something to note, ALL of the guitarists were playing through the audio interface of the Stomp IO so there were absolutely NO complaints about latency... and there were some picky players there (believe me!). It was a lot of fun.
Also, the drums sound fine and were a good backing for the jams. So, I am glad we did it (even if I didn't get the chance to hook it up to Studiophonik like I wanted).
Hope you like my Stomp IO vid! By the way, something to note, ALL of the guitarists were playing through the audio interface of the Stomp IO so there were absolutely NO complaints about latency... and there were some picky players there (believe me!). It was a lot of fun.
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- KVRist
- 172 posts since 10 Oct, 2005
Looks like some Genelec... good speakers there for sure!Beardedone wrote:Can you tell us what was Raphael was playing out of - Was it a PA or was it a set of active monitors or proper cabs. I couldn't tell from the video. I loved the playing by the way kinda Dimeola meets Henderson.
Cheers,
Gordon
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- KVRAF
- 4878 posts since 13 Jun, 2002 from Montreal
That's what I was wondering. Those great small monitors but they are a nearfield design, right? So maybe if the guitar was going through something a bit more guitar cab-like it would be beefier in the upper notes. From what I could tell I liked the sound Raphael was getting. Definitely the interaction with the interface/software was happening as it should. I only hope I can afford the bux forthe Stomp I/O this spring.Beardedone wrote:
Can you tell us what was Raphael was playing out of - Was it a PA or was it a set of active monitors or proper cabs. I couldn't tell from the video. I loved the playing by the way kinda Dimeola meets Henderson.
Cheers,
Gordon
Looks like some Genelec... good speakers there for sure!
Cheers,
Gordon
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- KVRist
- 172 posts since 10 Oct, 2005
Yep, they are nearfield monitors. Some people swear by them. Others find they are too "bright". Just a matter of taste. But they do reproduce with precision the signal you feed into them... and are adequate for a show like the NAMM with their loudness restriction.
Anyway, I'm looking forward for the demos Squids promised us a long time ago!
Anyway, I'm looking forward for the demos Squids promised us a long time ago!
- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Yeah, I have those coming. I am killing two birds with one stone though (as I have to) and these are riffs that will be sold as loops in things like R.A.W. Universal Groove Kit and maybe a guitar riff library on its own. What I am doing is recording direct riffs and then you can run them through AmpliTube 2 or whatever else you may have (and of the effects you have or even reamp it- whatever floats yer boat!Melodioso wrote:Yep, they are nearfield monitors. Some people swear by them. Others find they are too "bright". Just a matter of taste. But they do reproduce with precision the signal you feed into them... and are adequate for a show like the NAMM with their loudness restriction.
Anyway, I'm looking forward for the demos Squids promised us a long time ago!
Of course, that is mostly for NON-guitar players (keyboardists, composers etc.) to play with. But, it could be useful as material to show off AmpliTube 2 so... I'd be glad to. I have sessions being cut up right now. One of them was a Jimmy Page Les Paul that we sampled for Studiophonik. The guitarist who did it is a Page-nut so I had him play a bunch of Zep-esque riffs (ie. riffs that are not exact so we can actually use them without copyright infringement). I didn't do any SPEED METAL licks for you high gain maniacs.
That said, we'll be doing ProFiles on EVERY style including Punk, Alternative, Speed Metal, Hardcore... you name it with this series: www.studioprofiles.com and during that journey I am sure we'll have the direct tracks from experts of every style to run through AmpliTube 2 for ya! All in due time.
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
I've been listening to all the demo files of GR2, AT2 and GTR by now, and my impressions are like the following:
GR2: Probably like it better than AT2 from the basic sound. Defenitely the most experimental of the three. Might fit my needs because of that. Will be able to tell when I'm back from touring.
AT2: The most flexible one when it comes to amp sounds. The question being whether that's making much sense because personally I'd rather prefer a handful of just great authentic sounds, something I haven't heard from any simulator yet.
GTR: Yes, admittedly it's pretty lame that there's not a single heavy style rhythm guitar sample, but what you can hear seems to be the most musical stuff IMO. Their samples sound pretty organic.
Too bad I will in NO WAY buy anything from that company ever. Demos requiring dongles: Just f**k that!
GR2: Probably like it better than AT2 from the basic sound. Defenitely the most experimental of the three. Might fit my needs because of that. Will be able to tell when I'm back from touring.
AT2: The most flexible one when it comes to amp sounds. The question being whether that's making much sense because personally I'd rather prefer a handful of just great authentic sounds, something I haven't heard from any simulator yet.
GTR: Yes, admittedly it's pretty lame that there's not a single heavy style rhythm guitar sample, but what you can hear seems to be the most musical stuff IMO. Their samples sound pretty organic.
Too bad I will in NO WAY buy anything from that company ever. Demos requiring dongles: Just f**k that!
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 23 Jul, 2001 from Jersey Is Where America's At
Sascha, as it stands now, AT2 will also require a dongle to demo.Sascha Franck wrote: Too bad I will in NO WAY buy anything from that company ever. Demos requiring dongles: Just f**k that!
Ugh...I almost defended Waves. I feel dirty.
I'm sorry this post wasn't about techno.
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- KVRist
- 177 posts since 25 Dec, 2005 from Indy
That's because it's nearly impossible to get a decent heavy sound out of it. The 'modern' amp sounds like a boss metal zone plugged into a practice amp that's in another room.Sascha Franck wrote:...GTR: Yes, admittedly it's pretty lame that there's not a single heavy style rhythm guitar sample...
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Actually, that's ok. So I can say "f**k off" to it as well without even feeling bad for a single moment. There's just gonna be no freaking dongle on any laptop I'll be using live.Funkybot wrote: Sascha, as it stands now, AT2 will also require a dongle to demo.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRian
- 747 posts since 5 Sep, 2002 from Redondo Beach
Exactly! I'd like to see the presets designed for and with specific common guitars also.Sascha Franck wrote:personally I'd rather prefer a handful of just great authentic sounds, something I haven't heard from any simulator yet.
For example:
Les Paul/Marshall
Strat/Twin
PRS/ Soldano etc.
Then we can twaek it and add effects if we like from there.
I think you're right. GR-2 seems the best of the lot so far. I'm trying really hard to get some usable rhythm tones from it. That's the bigger problem, the rhythm sounds. Leads are not so tough.
Jeff
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
I dont use a laptop live, nor would I use much fx...but that's just me...as for the dongle...all I have is an ilok, I taped it to the leg of my table and ran a usb extension cord to it (male to female, not the regular usb cables), that way I never have to worry about losing or breaking it...but again I am not taking my system mobile.Sascha Franck wrote:Actually, that's ok. So I can say "f**k off" to it as well without even feeling bad for a single moment. There's just gonna be no freaking dongle on any laptop I'll be using live.Funkybot wrote: Sascha, as it stands now, AT2 will also require a dongle to demo.
So why do I have a laptop?...because I thought it would be good by the pool, which I couldn't even tell if it was on or off...but it is nice to take it from room to room...however I would never need the ilok outside of where it is now, it's only for my AVOX which is not exactly something I use daily...
I was going to buy a new system (rackmount) for just recording last week, I was looking at some dual core set-ups, and I still plan on it...it's just that I know as soon as I buy one they'll come out with something that changes everything and my system will be obsolete...
btw the laptop would be a nice go between...
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
Jeff the problem with that is getting permission...like strat, stratocaster, tele, telecaster are all registered trademarks for Fender..I know, like I said in one store I worked we had a huge used inventory...as this store has like 15 different stores throughout New England and New York (Daddy's Junky Music) we had a monthly flyer listing all the used gear and could get any used piece in two days to any store...Fender took legal action when Daddy's (before I got there) advertised the guitars as "strat type" that weren't Fenders...like say an Ibanez strat imo is still a strat, but we had to label it s-type...or Fender would pull all the new gear from the stores.Guitarjeff wrote:Exactly! I'd like to see the presets designed for and with specific common guitars also.Sascha Franck wrote:personally I'd rather prefer a handful of just great authentic sounds, something I haven't heard from any simulator yet.
For example:
Les Paul/Marshall
Strat/Twin
PRS/ Soldano etc.
Then we can twaek it and add effects if we like from there.
I think you're right. GR-2 seems the best of the lot so far. I'm trying really hard to get some usable rhythm tones from it. That's the bigger problem, the rhythm sounds. Leads are not so tough.
Jeff
So using models and names may not be possible as a result. Though they may be able to obtain permission it could be costly, a cost that will be passed along in the price...kinda catch-22...
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRian
- 747 posts since 5 Sep, 2002 from Redondo Beach
Well, they could use phrases like S-Type, LP-type etc. GR-2 already does this with their "Gratifier" "Lead 800" "Tweedman" etc. Amp models. My idea could still be implemented.
My point is that most of the presets for these things are either bathed in effects, or sound like crap with standard guitars.
It's like they were designed with cheap or uncommon guitars rather than what most pro players actually own.
Jeff
My point is that most of the presets for these things are either bathed in effects, or sound like crap with standard guitars.
It's like they were designed with cheap or uncommon guitars rather than what most pro players actually own.
Jeff


