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I put this together after IRBY asked about racks in another thread. Not meant for the expert T user, but, if you never use racks or are curious about them, then please look at the following.

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Ok...here's a tracktion archive I put together that demonstrates the power of racks.

Get it here
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It's a twelve bar ambient loop using all free plugins. There are only two midi tracks and two racks.

Links to plugins:

Mr. Ray 2.2 Patch: 20 FM EP2
Andreas Ersson's ersdrums Patch: Long Drums (if necessary, change "Note"s to 36,41,38,40,37,43,39,51,42,49)
Kjaerhus Audio's Classic Reverb Patch for 'pad' rack: 0 Default - Patch for other rack: 8 Big and Bright (i boosted the level 20% or so)
(Smart Electronix) Antti's Augur Patch: 4 Pad2
Ugo's String Theory Patch: Magic
ndcMIDINoteRangeFilter (note that this is a .zip of all the ndc MIDI filters. In this archive only the noterangefilter is used)
RGC:Audio's sfz free
Claire Fitch's Cello Soundfont


Rack Descriptions

Rack 1 (pad): This rack is the simpler of the two. Basically, you can see that the midi is split into two synthesizers. Notice that the left channel of Mr. Ray and the right channel of Augur both feed into the Classic Reverb. Also notice that the right channel of Mr. Ray and the left channel of Augur both go directly to the outputs of the rack. This creates a stereo reverb and a stereo no-reverb on each channel. If I wanted the reverb and non-reverb parts to run together (on the same channel), then I would reverse the outputs of the classic reverb.

Rack 2 (cello and percussion):
This rack is a bit complex, but don't let it intimidate you. Basically we have the midi from the midi track split into 3 parts. The first split goes into ndcMIDInoterangefilter which tells sfz not to play midi notes below #45 (all the percussion midi notes). Sfz is playing the great cello soundfont from fellow kvrian Fitch. The second midi split goes into String Theory and the audio out of string theory goes straight out of the rack (ie the rack outputs...except for the left channel which also goes to the reverb). The last midi split is a bit trickier. Here we have ersdrums which is a multi-out drum synth. The midi notes come into it (remember that sfz is denying these notes) and are translated to individual output nodes based on the note. I found some of the sounds rather soft so I routed those sounds to a compressor. The rest are run directly to the rack outputs. Notice that some of the outputs from the ersdrums go to both rack output channels and others (crash) go to only one channel. Another interesting thing to note on this rack is that the reverb is shared between all three vsti's. This allows you to have a cohesive reverb sound and use the rack architecture as a way of creating virtual sends and returns.
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Your imagination and patience are the end of the road with racks. You can do a vast amount of things with them ranging from simple routing to complex modular creations.
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160+ views and no response?
Is my example too simplistic?
Is this useful at all?
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freeztar wrote:160+ views and no response?
Is my example too simplistic?
Is this useful at all?
I'm sure it will be for me once I start getting my head around Tracktion. I'm focusing on eXT at the moment but I'm always really greatful whenever anyone takes the time to post examples like this - I personally find it by far the easiest way to learn, so you can certainly have a "thanks in advnce" from me!

Regards,

Derek.
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freeztar wrote:160+ views and no response?
Is my example too simplistic?
Is this useful at all?
I just haven't had time to d/l it and play with it. :cry:

I've no doubt whatsoever that it'll be useful once I find that time! :hail:

DaveL

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freeztar wrote:160+ views and no response?
Is my example too simplistic?
Is this useful at all?
Definitely not too simplistic. I'm having to chase down a few things to download, which isn't a big deal. I'm running into two minor sticking points:

1) I've got String Theory (v.15) and Mr. Ray (v2.2), but I seem to have different versions than you used so Tracktion doesn't just use them. It's not hard to patch things back together, but it does lead to the next point:

2) What patches should be selected in the various VSTis to reproduce your results?

One other question: you said
freeztar wrote:Notice that the left channel of Mr. Ray and the right channel of Augur both feed into the Classic Reverb. Also notice that the right channel of Mr. Ray and the left channel of Augur both go directly to the outputs of the rack.
The rack outputs are clearly labeled as left and right, but the VSTis (e.g., Mr. Ray) just show two unlabeled outputs. It is a convention in Tracktion that the upper one is left and the lower one right?

All this offers interesting food for thought. Thanks.

DaveL

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DaveL60 wrote:
freeztar wrote:160+ views and no response?
Is my example too simplistic?
Is this useful at all?
Definitely not too simplistic. I'm having to chase down a few things to download, which isn't a big deal. I'm running into two minor sticking points:

1) I've got String Theory (v.15) and Mr. Ray (v2.2), but I seem to have different versions than you used so Tracktion doesn't just use them. It's not hard to patch things back together, but it does lead to the next point:

2) What patches should be selected in the various VSTis to reproduce your results?
Yeah, my mr. ray is 2..didn't realise it had been updated. Same thing with string theory as I have 1.01.
For Mr. Ray, I used the third preset "Cosmic Jam". For String Theory, I used the fourth preset "magic".
One other question: you said
freeztar wrote:Notice that the left channel of Mr. Ray and the right channel of Augur both feed into the Classic Reverb. Also notice that the right channel of Mr. Ray and the left channel of Augur both go directly to the outputs of the rack.
The rack outputs are clearly labeled as left and right, but the VSTis (e.g., Mr. Ray) just show two unlabeled outputs. It is a convention in Tracktion that the upper one is left and the lower one right?

All this offers interesting food for thought. Thanks.

DaveL
Yes, the convention in Tracktion is that the top is left and the bottom is right.

I'm glad that this helps! :)
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freeztar wrote: Rack 1 (pad): This rack is the simpler of the two. Basically, you can see that the midi is split into two synthesizers. Notice that the left channel of Mr. Ray and the right channel of Augur both feed into the Classic Reverb. Also notice that the right channel of Mr. Ray and the left channel of Augur both go directly to the outputs of the rack. This creates a stereo reverb and a stereo no-reverb on each channel. If I wanted the reverb and non-reverb parts to run together (on the same channel), then I would reverse the outputs of the classic reverb.
And a correction...
As it is, this rack IS setup to play reverb version and no-reverb version on the same channels. Reversing the outputs of the reverb would reverse the reverb part on each channel. Hope that makes sense...
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Thumbs up freeztar. :tu: Haven't checked your archive yet but Tracks are one of the greatest things about T and once you start using them there's no looking back.

So [Robert.Cray.sings] ... don't by afraid of the Track ...[/Robert.Cray.sings]
If I go insane, please don't put your wires in my brain
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Neat! I still can't figure out racks (they don't seem to be mentioned in the help file for the one-time freeware 1.6.0.1), so I'm pretty impressed. Thanks for the example; and that it was cool, is an added bonus.
Wait... loot _then_ burn? D'oh!

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Thanks Freeztar. This will help me get started again. I say again because all of my older project's data were wiped when I installed the latest version of Tracktion - I have a folder of what I thought were Tracktion - but none none othese will open. I do not understand why this is. I have yet to use Tracktion for anything other than a doodle. I was just starting to get into it too... Oh well one day, when I have a mountain of patience, I'll try again to to sequence something in T2. Right now I am enjoying eXT.

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zeoy wrote:Thumbs up freeztar. :tu: Haven't checked your archive yet but Tracks are one of the greatest things about T and once you start using them there's no looking back.
Indeed! It's got to the point that if I finish a track without a rack filter I try and figure out a way to squeeze one in their somehow. :hihi:
Jafo wrote:Neat! I still can't figure out racks (they don't seem to be mentioned in the help file for the one-time freeware 1.6.0.1), so I'm pretty impressed. Thanks for the example; and that it was cool, is an added bonus.
Glad you liked it Jafo! :)
If you still have questions then feel free to ask. Racks are one of those things that seems overwhelming at first, but once you see the big picture it all makes sense. Keep playing and experimenting with them and you will get the hang of them. As zeoy pointed out, they are addictive.
Beardedone wrote: Thanks Freeztar. This will help me get started again. I say again because all of my older project's data were wiped when I installed the latest version of Tracktion - I have a folder of what I thought were Tracktion - but none none othese will open. I do not understand why this is. I have yet to use Tracktion for anything other than a doodle. I was just starting to get into it too... Oh well one day, when I have a mountain of patience, I'll try again to to sequence something in T2. Right now I am enjoying eXT.
That's funny...I feel the opposite way. I had a hard time getting into eXT and found it unintuitive. I've sat down with it three times after MANY recommendations and each time I got frustrated because I couldn't figure out how to do something simple like play a file. :x I'm not giving up on it, just letting it rest for a while as well. ;)
But anyhow, Tracktion's rack architecture is similar to the modularity of eXT.
A good way for you to get back into tracktion would be to load eXT as a vst in Tracktion. That way if you started to feel stuck or frustrated in tracktion then you could sequence or whatever through eXT. :)


Cheers, everyone, for the comments!
I hope this continues to be a learning tool for those wanting to mingle with racks.

Also, please feel free to use the archive any way you wish. It is meant as a learning tool, but I encourage everyone to rip it apart, add to it, or completely altercate it for use in their own works and dabblings.
ROYALTY and ATTRIBUTION FREE :D
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freeztar wrote:160+ views and no response?
Is my example too simplistic?
Is this useful at all?
It would help a bunch if you just could make a zip with the instruments you use in the rack. From past occasions I learned that tracking down VTS(i)s, patched and presets for a rack that someone else made can be quite tedious and even then most of the time it doesn't seem to sound the same as it did in the original.
Would that be too much to ask?
Cheers!

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That would help a lot, but I don't really know the transfer rights of these plugs so I don't feel comfortable doing that.
I can however, provide links to the downloads...in retrospect I should have done this. I will edit the first post with the links once I track them down. :)
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freeztar wrote:That would help a lot, but I don't really know the transfer rights of these plugs so I don't feel comfortable doing that.
I can however, provide links to the downloads...in retrospect I should have done this. I will edit the first post with the links once I track them down. :)
You should be fine with that, just add a little disclaimer in text or something, they are after all free. If you zip up the plugins that you use we won't run into any version or preset conflict like DaveL60 did.

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I'll look into that slacknote...
In the meantime I added links to all the plugins (and preset used) in the first post.
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