Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!

[Kingston]

German Shorthair Pointer...

A fine breed of dog indeed. I take it you like hunting, too? Just to keep us firmly OT and the counter rolling.

[A3ntar]

Can you tell, I love it when this thread goes back O/T

LOL, this thread had become a legend of it's own.

I wonder if we can hit the 200 pages before AT2 gets released, so we can retire it with dignity

[Kingston]

dignity

umm.. huh? aah, I remember, the swooshing thing that went by on page 4.

[kilroy]

German Shorthair Pointer...

A fine breed of dog indeed. I take it you like hunting, too? Just to keep us firmly OT and the counter rolling.

I do alot of running mate, and one thing this breed loves to do is run...and swim...swims like a ruddy fish, he does. He's right good company when I'm tramping about outdoors, as I like to do on my "free" time. Perfect dog if you are the active outdoorsy type...and scary intelligent as well.

Plus, you have to like a dog that never has foul breath. I have a mate who has one of those lap dogs...forget the name of the breed...that little blighter has breath that would take barnacles right off the rocks.

*passes baton*

[daGuru]

(breaks out the Champagne glasses)

Bring on 200, Gentlemen

CHEERS!!!

[A3ntar]

Speaking of dignity, and adhering to the topic did anyone seen these artists on IKMM's website?

The interviews from NAM2006 seem so phony. Half of them repeat the same phrase over and over, and the other half can't even remember the name of the product they're using ( or the company for that matter ) and it seems like the interviwer is shouting them the names.

So when Squids sais to see the musician's reaction on the website, I don't actually take that as a compliment to IKMM.

[Sascha Franck]

I certainly *do* know what re-amping is about and Jeff's "recording at home, than re-amp later" is a good point too.
It's just that it isn't essential for an amp. You're not asking for a guitar D.I. out when buying a Rectifier either. Simply because usually you just don't *need* to re-amp with those.
And then, if I were about to re-amp everything, the ampsim wouldn't have to be great anyways. All I'd need in that case would be a somewhat suitable sound, giving me an imagination of what my guitar would sound like in a mix.
Having said that, *if* amp sims were as great as they claim to be, people possibly wouldn't even use re-amping but render the results to a track straight when recording.

[daGuru]

Speaking of dignity, and adhering to the topic did anyone seen these artists on IKMM's website?

The interviews from NAM2006 seem so phony. Half of them repeat the same phrase over and over, and the other half can't even remember the name of the product they're using ( or the company for that matter ) and it seems like the interviwer is shouting them the names.

So when Squids sais to see the musician's reaction on the website, I don't actually take that as a compliment to IKMM.

Yes... The Vernon Reid is a classic... Watch VERY closely... He tries so hard not to say "Actually, amplitube sounds nothing like any of my amps" AND he would definitely know

So telling

[Lunch Money]

Sascha: there's definitely something to what you say. Even when you've tweaked a "bad" amp sim, if you're like me you've done it with a great deal of care. In the end, even if it's not realistic, it becomes the sound of the track, and then you can't imagine reamping it anyhow.

Part of it, for me, is just knowing that I COULD if I needed to. A wee security blanket, I guess. And if the feature is easily-implemented, all the better!

Greg

[Niksounds]

Do you have used Amplitube2?

It appears .. yes.

[Amberience]

One more step to page 200.

[Hink]

re-amping = picking the tone to enhance your playing (post recorded)

re-takes = picking a playing style to suit your tone (prerecording)

I see the point of both and I would say each is a valid approach. So from there it comes down to personal choice. As music isn't a career or a vocation for me, but a way of life, I choose the latter of the two. For me it's all about playing, it would be like dominoes falling. If I re-amped certain parts I would hear an enhancement to a frequency or timbre. That difference would start a chain reaction, "if that sounds good I could do 'this' here and 'that' here"...so I would have two choices...punch in or retake...I like the groove to stay the same, I'm not about finishing mass quantities of songs. So retakes are best for me, plus there's a strong chance that discovery along the way might give birth to new inspirations. I do not punch in to fix little mistakes often, I do often punch in entire sections of a sound (a whole solo, or verse, chorus ect.)

That's why I made the change from analog to digital back in the 90s. I play songs way too many times for other people's taste, but for me that's why I do this...to play. With analog tapes, they wore out before I finished songs and I felt I was stuck with a take that I liked. With digital I don't have to worry about it waring out and if I like a take I can save it, if I don't come up with something better I don't lose the one I have.

I have a very similar situation to Jeff, but I prefer to redo entire tracks. I really like to record what I hear, and playing is fun...so I want the best sound playing for maximum enjoyment.

Last week my best friend was trying to get me to go out jam with our old drummer (who just got of jail) and an asshole rhythm guitar player we had. As we were talking he said something that still makes me scratch my head. He said he didn't understand how over the last 10 years plus I have been able to enjoy music without human interaction. I explained to him that you can easily see how much I've grown over that period, had I waited until I had others to work with I would either have given it up or not grown at all...as the most important thing is how much I get out of it, my method works better for me. Though I can totally understand those wishing to get songs out for commercial release wanting to speed up the process some...

[Lunch Money]

I like doing re-takes, too. Here's a situation that has only a little to do with re-amping:

I recorded a "scratch" track for a song. Worked medium-hard to get a tone (heck, I couldn't just use ANY old sound.. had to tweak at least a BIT!) and then recorded. This was using a GDI-21 (like a SansAmp), so everything going to "tape" was final.

I was using my Godin with P90s in it, and if you've heard me whine in the past, you'll know that my apartment is lousy with EMI. So, there's some unwelcome noise on the recording, but it's a 'scratch' track, so no biggie, right?

Until every subsequent 'take' ended up missing the magic. I've sat down for several full sessions (without going OVERBOARD and getting angry) and haven't been as happy with them. The original still rocks.

So, it's 50% for each side of the coin:

- on one hand, I got the "right" sound the first time, after all, so there's no need to re-amp
- but on the other hand, with a dry track, I could've tweaked a new preset that would probably be as good or better than the original (with effort!... now that I have the TonePort, I'm almost there), used a noise removal algorithm, and re-amped with less (though not zero without compromising the tone) noise.

I think ultimately if I had to choose, I prefer the idea of committing to tape and/or doing re-takes. But given the option, I can only see the ability to record and re-use a dry track as a plus.

Greg

[Hink]

I think ultimately if I had to choose, I prefer the idea of committing to tape and/or doing re-takes. But given the option, I can only see the ability to record and re-use a dry track as a plus.

I totally agree Greg, except I know me, if I spent a lot of time tweaking a dry signal run through an amp sim?... After listening to it over and over while tweaking inspirations would come, or ear fatigue would come...either way the "re-use a dry track" would end there and a new track would be recorded.

However, by the same token, if I did use a dry track as described above I might have inspirations that I never would of as a result. TBH I'm really trying to find a reason to buy an amp sim, I want to keep up, maybe that would be a good enough reason...

[Lunch Money]

Not necessarily "re-amping" (which is slightly more of a pain in the ass because you have to go back to hardware in realtime), but with Plug-ins, sometimes it's just a matter of, "Man, just a BIT too much delay here." Tweak, you're done.

That's where plug-ins are beautiful.

Greg