Linux EXT?

[fake]

I thought I had read a post of someone asking if there would be Jack support and that there would be a way for someone to add support if they liked via a library that was going to be open sourced as a part of XT2.

oh, yes you can and if you know network coding, you could add support for using it on multiple pc's. Or does jack do that already?

jorgen

Not sure about that but jack is a server so I think it possible, may have problems with latency though.

Linux would support all soundcards if it could but it's the makers that will not release their code that stops it happening.

M-audio 24/96 works fine and can also use the Envy 24 control panel. Almost the same as the m-audio one. I also have ac97 5.1 working and with all outputs enabled, it's noisy though.

fake

[GooGooMuck]

Unfortunately there is no support for my Audiophile 192 card yet (even though ALSA supports the ice1724 chip). Been using linux for a long time and hopefully will be able to use XT2 in it when/if my card becomes supported.

[Klawzz]

oh, yes you can and if you know network coding, you could add support for using it on multiple pc's. Or does jack do that already?

jorgen

Not out of the box, but the Netjack addon is being developed at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/netjack

"Netjack is a distributed addon for JACK, Jack audio connection server. It allows for connecting JACK servers from several machines over the network."

Regards.

[Ben [KVR]]

Thanks jorgen for the info. It was puzzeling me how you would do the vst bit as steinberg want to be paid a licence fee to re-distribute it. Receptor and the studio to go package have to pay that.
It seems from reading about it that some dev's think they can ignore that fact and re distribute the vstsdk with their product.

Receptor does not include the VST SDK and Muse Research does not pay anything to Steinberg. I don't know the technicalities, but the VST host on Receptor is not based on open source GPL code so the problem you refer to doesn't arise.

[Amberience]

Gotta look after those commercial interests, Ben.

[Ben [KVR]]

Gotta look after those commercial interests, Ben.

How do you mean?

[Amberience]

Can't remember.

[MRT]

OK This may be stupid but.......
What are the advantages of a Linux DAW?

I'm assuming your looking at a big performance increase by switching OS?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[elv]

I'm assuming your looking at a big performance increase by switching OS?

Actually no, the peformance should be similar.
For my it has more to do being free from Microsoft and how the do things.
Of course it is nice that GNU/Linux is free and most of the software.
Vista is just around the corner, and thats means paid update, plus waiting for updates on the software you use as(as I understand it ) many software that write to the registry(wich most of windows software does) will not run unmodified on Vista

[Mikomi]

OK This may be stupid but.......
What are the advantages of a Linux DAW?

I'm assuming your looking at a big performance increase by switching OS?

Inquiring minds want to know.

-Linux is free.
-Linux is available for loads of processor architectures. You can run it on both x86 PC's and Mac's. Assuming eXT is compiled for these architectures then...
-Linux generally has better scheduling of the CPU time, and is often claimed to be more robust under stress. Additionally, Linux wont gobble up all your memory after 24 hours like Windows does, forcing you to reboot.
-Linux has greater support for different harddisk formats, some of which may perform better at streaming audio tracks.
-Due to its open source nature, theres plenty of pretty good free audio software/plugins available for Linux.

Overall, it probably won't make much difference which OS you use, but some people prefer Linux for thier daily tasks, and having eXT compiled for it would mean these people didn't have to switch back to windows to do audio work. In short, it's nice to be given the choice.

[jorgen]

I wouldnt say that linux is better, because its a matter of what you prefer yourself. I luve windows and I luve linux (nerd to the bone). On my desktop PC I have win/linux dual boot, my laptop is linux only...for surfing and XT2

cheers
jorgen

[untitled211]

"..my laptop is linux only...for surfing and XT2 "

[fandango]

MRT: Sorry, but I just have be to "Yin" to Mikomi's "Yang" for sake of democracy.

As much as like Linux, it really is only free if you consider your time worthless.

It takes quite a while for a lot of people to gain a proper confidence for working in Linux. Understanding how most of the configuration stuff in /etc and /boot works, working out how to patch kernels and install driver source updates, getting certain devices to be recognised out of the box, probing ports, etc.

It wouldn't surprise me that most people end up surfing on it (not talking about Jorgen, obviously, but most people that try to get into linux from Windows). Or just using open-source alternatives like OpenOffice, etc. which would be a good reason for many offices, departments, etc. to shift.

As much as I am looking forward to eXT2 on Linux, encouraging people who are already happy in Windows to spend time in some magical free low-latency fairyland where all their DAW dreams comes true is really doing people a dis-service, imo.

[Mikomi]

MRT: Sorry, but I just have be to "Yin" to Mikomi's "Yang" for sake of democracy.

As much as like Linux, it really is only free if you consider your time worthless.

It takes quite a while for a lot of people to gain a proper confidence for working in Linux. Understanding how most of the configuration stuff in /etc and /boot works, working out how to patch kernels and install driver source updates, getting certain devices to be recognised out of the box, probing ports, etc.

It wouldn't surprise me that most people end up surfing on it (not talking about Jorgen, obviously, but most people that try to get into linux from Windows).

As much as I am looking forward to eXT2 on Linux, encouraging people who are already happy in Windows to spend time in some magical free low-latency fairyland where all their DAW dreams comes true is really doing people a dis-service, imo.

All of these points are indeed true. If you have no reason to switch to Linux, then don't. I started using it as part of my course, but I don't really use it for much else. Seeing as most of my plugins are not gonna be compiled for Linux, there's no need for me to change from using Windows!

[fandango]

Mikomi: I think we're agreed. I did my final year uni programming project exclusively in Linux (with a dash of QT) and it was great for that. And for those who are experienced with Linux, eXT2 will be great breath of fresh air in a world where Rosegarden and MUSE are king. But I'd feel bad if someone burnt Linux CDRs, installed, tried to set up a low latency environment, wasted hours and hours and hours trying to satisfy dependencies, edit config files... when their PC came with Windows and they can just double-click a few icons...