KVR Audio

Krakatau · Post by **Krakatau** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:54 pm

I already pointed once to the fact that these types of non-linear reverbs aren't common as sorfware as much as i can see

- that Masterverb version 5 seems to have this fonction ( didn't demo it yet )
- the most IR reverbs offers the possibility to reverse an I.R sample

BUT, in fact, is there many reverbs of our virtual arsenal that can do the work internally in the same manner the hardware unit does ?

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:55 pm

That Quikquak one lets you reverse the reverb I think.

dystonia_ek · Post by **dystonia_ek** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:23 pm

Some of the Reaktor verbs can do this. Ultimate Reverb from the UL comes to mind - reverse reverb tails up to something like 40 seconds.

Krakatau · Post by **Krakatau** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:43 pm

dystonia_ek wrote:Some of the Reaktor verbs can do this. .

- do they use of some vst specs like beeing tempo-based,...does it exist ?

Debutante · Post by **Debutante** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:56 pm

Freeverb Too has a gate

brok landers · Post by **brok landers** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:18 pm

artsacoustic reverb can do gated reverbs ... just use the spread parameter. reverse like reverbs you can do with the attack parameter ...

Spyro · Post by **Spyro** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:25 pm

Use any reverb and use Backman (read about the "backman sandwich trick") here

If the verb is on a send, you could use any noise gate for the... you know...gating.

Krakatau · Post by **Krakatau** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:00 pm

Yes that's "reverb and gate" but as you may know, technically different than "gate reverb"

nevertheless i'm going to have a sandwich (as suggested...)

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and by my side always forget to precise i'm mac based...but thanks, mate !

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:04 pm

You can do gated reveb in SIR.
Just load an IR and adjust length and env.

If you load an IR in your favourite audio editor and reverse it and load the result into SIR, you have your reverse reverb as well.
A bit convoluted (no pun intended) admittedly but it works.

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:13 pm

the only "good" sounding reverse algo I`ve found in VST area is included with Anwida Spazio.
This really does sound very nice!!! Try the demo. Its worth it...

convolution reverse sounds terrible to my ears.. never fits a mix...

others that do that trick are the powercore tools non-lin2.

But both of these two are limit too a max. of 1 sec I think.

So lets wait and see when CSR is available. It also includes a reverse reverb, and I am sure that it is high-quality.

Spyro · Post by **Spyro** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:38 pm

Yes that's "reverb and gate" but as you may know, technically different than "gate reverb"

Just place the gate before the reverb on the send chain...do I miss something?

The effect I see you're asking for is a gated verb that will sound only on the higher transients of the source signal...such as a Dub style where the higher snare shot triggers the verb...right?

Krakatau · Post by **Krakatau** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:43 am

Spyro wrote:
Yes that's "reverb and gate" but as you may know, technically different than "gate reverb"
Just place the gate before the reverb on the send chain...do I miss something?

The effect I see you're asking for is a gated verb that will sound only on the higher transients of the source signal...such as a Dub style where the higher snare shot triggers the verb...right?

Sorry no, not at all, but this is my mistake, what i was reffering by "gate reverb" is, as example) a special preset of the Yamaha SPX90** multi-effect unit that is, in fact, a kind of early reflection algorithm ( hall. random, reverse, plate )

"reverb and gate"only really made sense litterally in the case, my bad !

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Did you knew that stuff ?, i remember in summer 1985 when i saw it the first time, we were all amazed by the fact it costed "only" 1000 swiss francs !!!!... the first of a relatively low cost effect unit of it generation.

Spyro · Post by **Spyro** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:25 pm

understood

steffe · Post by **steffe** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:34 pm

WaveArts MasterVerb 5 : absolutely sweet.

Or Logic EnVerb to name a free one

best

meister eder · Post by **meister eder** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 4:28 pm

steffe wrote: Or Logic EnVerb to name a free one

You beat me to it.

Here's how it works (I guess that's what you're looking for, Krakatau):

Note the "original signal delay" fader and the "predelay" knob, so you can do both pre signal reverse reverbs* and post signal reverse reverbs*. Set the attack to zero (other than in the picture), the release to zero, and "original signal delay" and "predelay" also to zero to get a perfect gated reverb.

*To prevent an idle discussion about what a real reverse reverb or backwards reverb is: This refers to so called reverse reverbs as produced on old hardware reverb units.

where are the gated, reverse reverbs in our virtual world ?