Can someone recommend an effect that adds harmonic partials?

[aMUSEd]

Also have you tried DFX Transverb?

[runagate]

I LOVE transverb
I pretty much just love DFX!

Realtime isn't really what I'm going for just responsiveness.
Wavechanger2 is fast. I pile fx onto Mysteron & Nusofting's theremin without a problem.

I don't think resynthesis is quite what I mean but I don't have the proper terminology for foisting some other harmonic series's partials onto another waveform. I realize that it sound like I want some sort of resonance but I just can't quite home in on the words.

And obviously I began talking about 2 entirely separate things without differentiating then sufficiently. One is using an effect to create a new harmonic signature (something along the line of giving a flure-bore sound the overtone signature of a basoon or something more artificial and far-out but I think that gets the point across) & secondly I use fx to make voice into futuristic sounding leads, something that can respond to stacatto (which pitch-tracking midi can't really yet) and can also create a sustained tone. I've use RM, FM, tremolo (pitch-waver not vibrato), weird pitch-shifters (which when crappy enough create an etirely new sound while also shifting pitch), comb filter banks, Prosoniq Morph, whatever Wavechanger2 is, pitch-tracking synths, etc. etc.

But this second thing I'm talking about is just using fx to beef up voice to an unrecognizable degree yet keep a non-amorphous "instrument" sound.

Now that I've had time to think about it weird thing #1 is probably only doable with vokator/prosoniq morph, etc. I was picturing something like a synth where you just draw the little partials on a graph (I'm always looking up the overtone series of real things to throw into these synths) and really who knows what that'd sound like on voice or theremin anyways.

I haven't found the right recording to demonstrate what I've managed to do that comes close in the past but I found the recording of the time I got to use Kantos or something like that & it's cool, mostly because it plays "fretlessly" but it sure can't follow stacatto voicings.

Sorry it's myspace but it's the song anachronism warble and the effect is at the very beginning, a different take on it is near the middle

Now is not the time of night to dig up the recording I am looking for apparently so I'll come back for more expertise later. Thanks again

[gy]

You could try GSinthG, it's in the beta section at GVST. It does just what you're after, I think, although I don't know if it's flexible enough. It's worth a try anyway. You'll probably want to use it as a send, or duplicate the track, and mix it in to taste.

[CinningBao]

wasn't there a wonderful FFT tool released recently with a name like dblfx2 or something? (I can't think of the name off hand but I'm sure someone else will) That is an FFT tool with lots of smears and shifters - I had quite a bit of fun with my voice through that, though it won't really react to sounds. You could probably build something special in <your favourite modular host but Bidule's pretty good> which listens to the source sound and triggers events in the dblfx2 (misspelt).

Another odd sounding toy for pushing the harmonic spectrum around is AnarchySoundSoftware's HarmonicAdder and Convoluter, both part of the AnarchyEffects series.
http://www.anarchysoundsoftware.co.uk/h ... rchyfx.htm

[aMUSEd]

I don't think resynthesis is quite what I mean but I don't have the proper terminology for foisting some other harmonic series's partials onto another waveform. I realize that it sound like I want some sort of resonance but I just can't quite home in on the words.

Ah - maybe you could do this using convolution? Its not just for reverb or real spaces - check out Spirit Canyon's IR's - they are designed more to mess with the harmonics of a sound. Also Delaydots has a couple of effects that can take the spectral frequency from one sound and impose it on another - Spectralmorph is one and there are modules in their Spectrumworks VST that also do something similar (and can use convolution). I think a couple of Elevaytor's plugins can also combine spectral content though I haven't tried those yet (Space boy for example)

Also if u click my sig there are 3 banks for Transverb on my music page if u don't already have them

[gravehill]

FM seems to work better than RM but I haven't found anything that I can create a lot of presets with variety with.

Have you tried the Native Instruments FM7 synth? You can use it as an effect as well and it should be capable of what you're looking for.

[Lunch Money]

Oh man, good call aMUSEd-- the plug-in by Elevayta in question is Clone Boy. It takes the harmonic character of one signal and applies it to the other. In terms of setup, it "operates" the way a vocoder would, with a carrier and modulator (2 signals), but in terms of sound, it's not a vocoder.

Super-nifty stuff. Use a buzzsaw lead as the modulator and the voice as the carrier (or vice versa I guess!) for some mad fun.

Greg

[CinningBao]

the only thing I'd say about the Elevayta plugins is that they're not really real-time - I find 92ms a bit much for accurate timing, unless of course you're not actually singing, just making noise..

EDIT:
DtBlkFx0.2 is the almost realtime fft chain I spoke of earlier. http://www.rekkerd.org/dtblkfx/ truly excellent for tweaking voices. on a par, in terms of diversity, with DelayDots' SpectrumWorx http://www.delaydots.com

[rogerperrin]

Hi Runagate, perhaps you are looking for an additive synth rather than a mere effect. I'm using Spectra, which allows you to import a single, simple or complex wave for analysis and playback. Spectra creates a harmony, or harmonies -depending on wave complexity, and you can adjust the 250 partials to your liking. It has some built-in waves, and you can import and save waves from your other synths or wave files of instruments, ie bassoon, oboe, etc. Too, Spectra can morph between as many as 100 harmonies per note, which lets you change timbres, modulate, and tweak to the nth degree.

The morphing capability lets you capture, say, the crisp attack of a plucked string, morph to full volume with different overtones, and then taper the overtones to a mellow fade.

There are some freebie additives, also, but with a lot less features and effects. Try the Spectra demo which is unrestricted for 14 days, and you'll be sold on additive synthesis.

[runagate]

92 ms?! crap
I gotta try that out anyways.

[Marybelle]

A resonator sounds like what you are looking for. Try ohmygod. It's free and can use midi to select the overtones.
Short of that a ring modulator like mda's would add a fixed tone.

Did I miss the meeting of where to get ohmygod or is it still bundled?

[runagate]

All this stuff sounds like fun regardless of whether it works for what I'm after.
As I said I love weird effects!
FM7 - I can't see buying a DX7 synth.
GSinth I got but can't try out til tonight.
Spectra is most certainly not what need for this yet is something I yearn after!
DtBlkFx0.2 I now have but can't try that out til later, either.
I seem to recall CloneBoy having a demo, too, so I'll test that out.
I'm going to have to make a post of sounds that I come up with.
I love thread like this
I miss using AirFx & Lexicon Vortex though.

[mayan]

One of the Anarchy Effects plug-ins may do exactly what you are looking for. I don't remember the name but one of the effects allows a great deal of play with the harmonics.

[rogerperrin]

http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php?mode=re ... t=1&rpp=15 MicroTera is a beauty if you can find it - sweet - and does unreal woodwinds.

[aMUSEd]

DtBlkFx0.2 is the almost realtime fft chain I spoke of earlier. http://www.rekkerd.org/dtblkfx/ truly excellent for tweaking voices. on a par, in terms of diversity, with DelayDots' SpectrumWorx http://www.delaydots.com

That looks fantastic - I must have missed the announcement (or forgotten it). Thanks