KVR Audio

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:05 pm

aMUSEd wrote:None as good as this one

Personally, I never liked using Sounder.

cron · Post by **cron** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:15 pm

Becoming increasingly disillusioned to the point of obsession with the lack of curvy automation envelopes. It's frustrating having all this automative power when you can't even get a believably natural curve on a fade in/out. I use eXT for automation more often these days, solely for this functionality. A real shame considering that automation is something Mulch is legendarily good at.

sdv · Post by **sdv** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:20 pm

shamann wrote:
sdv wrote: But I wonder how Mulch and Bidule differ as it seems that Bidule has most everything Mulch has. Of course I've only used them just briefly so there are probably some deep differences if ppl say so... just wondering what those are (ex: Mulch being great for audio, triggering and warping it live?.
I've done at least one overview on the major differences in an old thread, but I haven't the mental power to list them all now.

The main difference is that Bidule is inefficient for sequencing events.

Audiomulch has its automation lanes, which can be set for most any parameter. There are of course other differences, but linear sequencing is the most central.

Kewl!! Thanks for sorting that out. Now I'll have a place to start looking when comparing the two.

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:23 pm

cron wrote:Becoming increasingly disillusioned to the point of obsession with the lack of curvy automation envelopes. It's frustrating having all this automative power when you can't even get a believably natural curve on a fade in/out. I use eXT for automation more often these days, solely for this functionality. A real shame considering that automation is something Mulch is legendarily good at.

You know, I've never actively missed curvy envelope lines. In what situations are they essential for you?

cron · Post by **cron** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:43 pm

It's only really became an issue since I started wanting to include more 'classically' electroacoustic sounds with really sharp attacks, sudden pitch swoops etc in my music. The lack of curves had always struck me as a little strange, but it wasn't really a problem when I was making more expansive drone type stuff.

tetraplan · Post by **tetraplan** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:36 am

What do you mean by curves- ease in/ease out stuff? 'Mulch does that. Noticed them when I was checking the example patches.

Groet, Erik

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:49 am

tetraplan wrote:What do you mean by curves- ease in/ease out stuff? 'Mulch does that. Noticed them when I was checking the example patches.

I think there are only curves on certain native parameters, and then you're locked to that exponential curve (can't go back to linear). That was implemented some time last year.

I think cron means like spline/vector breakpoint envelopes, like where there's the adjustable knuckle to bend the curve. I just tend to draw in several points, don't really miss any lost resolution.

There are things in Mulch I miss more, like timeline and counter displays in seconds, and automatable BPM changes. I know I can change with clock sync, but prefer to have it down in a written sequence, so I wouldn't have to set anything up but load the .amh file.

Muff Wiggler · Post by **Muff Wiggler** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:13 am

Borogove wrote:
Muff Wiggler's profile wrote:Location: Auto-Wah, Canada
Muff, how long have you had that in there? I have to kill you now.

It's been there for quite a while now man...

Muff Wiggler · Post by **Muff Wiggler** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:14 am

(let me remind you who started the 'bad synthesizer jokes' thread.. )

allofdrab · Post by **allofdrab** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:26 am

I found God, she's in the Metasurface

She says hi to everyone at KVR.

Borogove · Post by **Borogove** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:41 am

allofdrab wrote:I found God, she's in the Metasurface

sdv · Post by **sdv** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:27 am

allofdrab wrote:I found God, she's in the Metasurface

WTH??? Are you able to program that yourself or is that a standard MetaSurface setup? It looks just bloody wicked!!

snareSpanker · Post by **snareSpanker** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:31 pm

Muff Wiggler wrote:(let me remind you who started the 'bad synthesizer jokes' thread.. )

Where is that thread?

paradiddle · Post by **paradiddle** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:21 pm

I emailed the pic to ross bencina and seemed to dig it a lot.

sdv wrote:
allofdrab wrote:I found God, she's in the Metasurface
WTH??? Are you able to program that yourself or is that a standard MetaSurface setup? It looks just bloody wicked!!

Hovmod · Post by **Hovmod** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:27 pm

Hm. That metasurface pic goes whoooosh above my head

Question. Will Audiomulch ever come in a VST version? I'd love to stick AM in Tracktion, alongside eXT and rewired Reason it would be a great tool. It's a little too standalone now, imo.... Maybe it's just a beginner's mistake kind of idea, but is it all that silly?

The incredible versatility of eXT in my setups is that I can have eXT inside eXT inside Tracktion...

Audiomulch v1