Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!

[Mutant]

To Squids

On good marketing.

Don't lie to your customers.

You have just lost another sizable chunk of credibility - now when (if ) you post real AT2 clips people will think "is he playing with us again - he did it once so he may do it again".

ps. You are a good engineer. Can you please post another more aggresive, ballsy and longer clip of the same setup ?

[1991lespaul]

Sorry to hear your upset Squids. I, along with many others here, appreciate when you stop in and update us on the progress of AT2. As far as your "amp test" goes, I think it was great how you handled it...lol. I myself have a fender champ amp from the 70's (no drive/distortion). I never played through a tube amp with distortion, and can never tell the difference through any of the amp sims. I just use what I like and what sounds good to me. I'm sure that most everybody will find something they will enjoy in AT2. For example, I don't enjoy the high gain sounds of GR2, but do appreciate some of the more eclectic sounds. So thanks for all the updates/info/samples/etc. on AT2.

[beergeek]

Too funny Squids...

I was going to post that it sounded pretty good to me but with all the experts on kvr I just figured that my ears weren't all that good from too many years of playing my Sunn on 11

[Hink]

Squids ...no offense hear...I admire and respect you tremendously...however even the best make mistakes, and I think you made a big one by "proving" the customer base here to be wrong...if you were me or Sascha, or Greg, A3ntar or any other potential customer it would be different. But your voice is the voice of IK in many people's eyes. So how does tricking these people help? Can we now trust any clips you post?

Surely I understand why you did it and it was funny, but it was also a little damaging to the image I usually see from you. Doing your test was a great idea...but imo you should of kept the results to yourself, now from where I sit you just shot yourself in the foot...you just told some customers they don't know what they are talking about (especially the ones who listened and didn't comment, they might really feel stupid for not noticing). Worse you just (again my opinion only) destroyed any credibility future clips might have had...how will those who haven't got the developed ears to know if it's another trick?...thus they wont comment because they don't want to look like a fool.

I know you're frustrated and I can really empathize, that's what happens when you have worked in music retail...you take the flack that truly the company deserves..I know...it's happened to me (not anymore now I take more crap from this nursing home dads in)...but in all the times that I wanted to tell someone they didn't know what they were talking about I didn't. All the times people played things wrong, I didn't (but that's because in my life I learned more from being wrong than being right) I'm sure you can empathize with me as well, but when you work retail you get really bad playing drummed into your head. I know that seems to contradict what I say about there being no bad players and judging is wrong...but that's not what I'm talking about...I'm talking about guitars so out of tune it makes you cringe...you hear the same songs played wrong over and over...but if you want to make the sale you have to schmooze, not criticize.

I hope you read this as constructive because unlike some here I really enjoy your presence here and I really like and trust you (trust is a huge thing too)...btw...when and if you're in my area it wont be fish and chips you'll be buying us...when you're in my neck of the woods it's a peck of steamers and couple pound and a half lobstas...

[beergeek]

To Squids

On good marketing.

Don't lie to your customers.

You have just lost another sizable chunk of credibility - now when (if ) you post real AT2 clips people will think "is he playing with us again - he did it once so he may do it again".

ps. You are a good engineer. Can you please post another more aggresive, ballsy and longer clip of the same setup ?

I'm not going to go back through this thread to find it but Squids did EXACTLY the same thing some others have done IN ORDER TO PROVE A POINT.

To quote The Who "we won't get fooled again"

[t-willy]

To Squids

On good marketing.

Don't lie to your customers.

'cause some can't take a joke

lates

t-willy

[Hink]

one point...in the last paragraph I didn't mean it to sound like some people dislike you...I meant I respect you and I don't respect everyone...

[putte]

.. .. squids .. i for one appreciate that joke ..

oh, i´d like to preorder AT2. i heard it was supposed to be released soon ..

putte

[dogod]

I thought it sounded crappy too... I'm not after that old-school stuff... Be a man and stick up some metal, Squidsy

daGuru (R.I.P)

[A_Gruesome_Discovery]

"Squids' Amplitube 2 clips supposed to be released this month!!!"

I thought the clip was an eye-opener; I don't really like the tone so much, but it puts some things into perspective regarding our biases. The initial negative reaction from TWO PEOPLE is no need to call off the posting of new clips. There will be some criticism, some of it perhaps deserved, but I'm itching to hear what this thing is capable of aside from IKMM's samples. A simple Modern Tube into the Vintage 4x12 through an SM57, no effects or compression, could honestly sway me in the direction of a purchase, or at least take the plunge and get one of those dongles to demo it. The fact is that this thread is the closest thing to a support forum for IKMM, and there's a lot of us who are honestly interested in finding out if this product does indeed do "super modeling" (probably not as many as there were last October, but certainly a good few).

[AndrewSimon]

Squids , sorry but i think your sample is not representing the sound we are talking about in the best way it could , to my ears the sound is muddy a bit plastic yes i would say and doesnt have that AC30 crisp touch. I dont own any heavy weight equipement so i cant post the my samples of the sound the way i hear it but i have the oportumity to play whit exactly same gear you used sometimes and the sound i get is not like yours , its less muddy and has more crisp , but i have to admit i like your sound , its sounds way more vintage , but maybe its about amp age but if i had to make a bet i wouldnt be so sure its all about that.


I would say that it get way closer to this ( same guitar and mic as you used ) , and you have to hear there is a bit differnce

http://www.proguitar.de/AudioDemo/mp3/A ... aHeavy.mp3


Sorry about my English folks

Cool sound.

[AndrewSimon]

Plasticy? Bollocks. It's a $10,000. Jimmy Page Les Paul through a Vox AC30 cranked to 10 with a freakin' SM57 in front of it. Doesn't get any more REAL than that. 8/10? That's even a real JMI Vox from the mid 60's. Costs around $3,000 on the market. This one even belonged to a well known recording musician. I bought it from Ed Cherney.

Good one

[Vocalvoodoo]

I found the test funny and pretty revealing. First Squids, I don't feel you 'tricked us', as some have stated. It doesn't change my opinion of you, SR or IK negatively. I think it reveals what we have all known. The brain hears/perceives what it wants to based on the information we are presented. That's not to say people can't tell the difference between the real and modeled, just that perception is everything.

I even caught myself. I downloaded the clip after reading a few negative clips, before reading further that it was real. I went in with the notion that the clip sounded a little plasticish etc. While listening I though, "Oh bummer, it sounds cool but it is a little platicy and fake sounding." Made me chuckle to myself once I realized it was a real clip.

I still can't wait for AT2 to come out though. Come on already!!!!

[Hink]

well I hope no one thinks I was being negative...because I tried to make sure I wasn't...but I did post my opinion about it...which keeping with the perception thing is not negative...just like people perceive different sounds in different manners, people also perceive something like this test differently...and no one can lay claim to being right on it...it's just their point of view...but again it's not the ones being vocal about it on either side that would concern me...it would be those who might be embarrassed that they got fooled that would concern me. But to be fair my concern isn't as much about how they will look at the company, but how they might feel about themselves as a result...gee what's wrong with me, I didn't hear any difference...or the like...that's what I have concerns over.

Then of course you get those who say they could tell, but they might just be full of it and trying to save face or inflate their ego...but again, those with little esteem in their playing could suffer a blow over something as Vocalvoodoo reminds us isn't that big a deal.

FWIW, throughout this and other threads I have maintained that clips are a poor way to judge a product for purchase, so I'm not listening to the clips anyhow...so I won't bs the people and say I new it was a real amp...cause I didn't listen to it... Give me a demo, or at least a store to demo it at...that is the only way for me...more power to those who feel otherwise...but when I buy an amp I bring my guitar to demo it...if for no other reason than I will never own a 10k les paul

[AndrewW]

I think that Amplitube 2 will arrive when we hit 200 pages on this thread. I never thought any thread could hit 200 pages, but we are just a few days off on this one

Just imagine - how many different topics were discussed in this thread?
No one will know cause noone is crazy enough to read the whole 200 pages. But here we go, just 4 pages shy of the goal of 200 and hopefully Amplitube 2.0!!!!